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Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:45:35
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Prediction about Obama



DICK MORRIS'
December 16, 2008

2009: A PREDICTION
"The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening of
the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look for
Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy will
still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform American
life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-in
majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly dropping
ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
today."



Irish Mike








 
Date: 18 Dec 2008 14:08:14
From: Stephen Jacobs
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:aEk2l.6994$pr6.2214@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
> DICK MORRIS'
> December 16, 2008
>
> By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is today."
>

Interesting issue. With a certain segment of the population, who tend to
regard the rest of the population as meaningless (not to say brainless), he
is already as radioactive as Bush is with the population as a whole.

One of the interesting things about the present crisis is that very little
of long-term consequence has gone wrong yet. I'm predicting that so long as
there are no Big-3 Auto bankruptcies before the hand-over, things will look
so-so and improving in a year, and that people of a neoconservative bent
will be giving Bush and his administration credit for the timely cash
injections that headed off needless business failures, while blaming Obama
and his administration for the increased government control of industry that
today's mantra of "Accountability to the people who are putting up the
money" translates to.

A dimension of presidential behavior that doesn't get the attention it
deserves is the way a presicent gets his programs implemented. The
dimensions I see are hardball politics and persuasion (there are examples of
neither (Carter) and both (FDR), also). Reagan was a persuader, as was
Clinton (and I think Eisenhower). Bush is a ballplayer (as was JFK, I
think). With the appointment of Rahm Emanuel, Obama has taken the ball
field, but his natural talent appears to be for persuasion (almost opposite
of FDR, who was a hardball player and learned to persuade...better than
anyone). Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.




  
Date: 18 Dec 2008 20:55:24
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:08:14 -0500, "Stephen Jacobs"
<jacosa@comcast.net > wrote:

>A dimension of presidential behavior that doesn't get the attention it
>deserves is the way a presicent gets his programs implemented. The
>dimensions I see are hardball politics and persuasion (there are examples of
>neither (Carter) and both (FDR), also). Reagan was a persuader, as was
>Clinton (and I think Eisenhower). Bush is a ballplayer (as was JFK, I
>think). With the appointment of Rahm Emanuel, Obama has taken the ball
>field, but his natural talent appears to be for persuasion (almost opposite
>of FDR, who was a hardball player and learned to persuade...better than
>anyone). Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.

I think he's seriously going to need hardball. This Kumbaya bullshit
looks nice on TV but it isn't going to get Repigs to go his way, at
least not until a few are given the choice of getting their throat cut
or Kumbaya, choose wrongly, and are eviscerated in public. Hope he
picks the right throats and has the guts to carry it off.


   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 21:50:02
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"A Man Beaten by Jacks" <nobody@fool.foo > wrote in message
news:mlvlk4dckcu0ge5f3355qgtmvdj8t0m18j@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:08:14 -0500, "Stephen Jacobs"
> <jacosa@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A dimension of presidential behavior that doesn't get the attention it
>>deserves is the way a presicent gets his programs implemented. The
>>dimensions I see are hardball politics and persuasion (there are examples
>>of
>>neither (Carter) and both (FDR), also). Reagan was a persuader, as was
>>Clinton (and I think Eisenhower). Bush is a ballplayer (as was JFK, I
>>think). With the appointment of Rahm Emanuel, Obama has taken the ball
>>field, but his natural talent appears to be for persuasion (almost
>>opposite
>>of FDR, who was a hardball player and learned to persuade...better than
>>anyone). Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
>
> I think he's seriously going to need hardball. This Kumbaya bullshit
> looks nice on TV but it isn't going to get Repigs to go his way, at
> least not until a few are given the choice of getting their throat cut
> or Kumbaya, choose wrongly, and are eviscerated in public. Hope he
> picks the right throats and has the guts to carry it off.

The latest moronic rant from Jacks. Any American politician who doesn't
agree with Obama "should have his throat cut". Spoken like the
America-hating radical muslims you constantly defend Jacks. Now go stick
your dim-witted head back in The Messiah's kool aid bucket.

Irish Mike




 
Date: 18 Dec 2008 10:46:20
From: Kingo Gondo
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike
This loser mick's paranoia, fear and jealousy about a black man far smarter
and more successful than him will cause him to become deranged.

Not a tough one to call, right?




  
Date: 19 Dec 2008 01:15:11
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:46:20 -0500, "Kingo Gondo"
<kingo_nospam_gondo@gmail.com > wrote:

>This loser mick's paranoia, fear and jealousy about a black man far smarter
>and more successful than him will cause him to become deranged.
>
>Not a tough one to call, right?
>

But you're wrong. He's already deranged.


  
Date: 18 Dec 2008 15:44:42
From: hanks
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike
On Dec 18 2008 7:46 AM, Kingo Gondo wrote:

> This loser mick's paranoia, fear and jealousy about a black man far smarter
> and more successful than him will cause him to become deranged.
>
> Not a tough one to call, right?
LOL Amen to that brother!!!!

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 11:12:12
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike

"Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_gondo@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:pOOdnbed5uPQ7dfUnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> This loser mick's paranoia, fear and jealousy about a black man far
> smarter and more successful than him will cause him to become deranged.
>
> Not a tough one to call, right?

Well you might want to consider four things bucko:
First, it was Dick Morris who made the prediction.
Second, you spent eight straight years bitching about George Bush. Expect a
little of the same for Obama.
Third, shove your race card up your politically correct ass - no one's
buying that bull shit any more.
Fourth, he may be your Messiah but there are 55,000,000+ of us who didn't
vote for Obama - and I'm proud to be one of them.

Irish Mike





   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 15:19:57
From: Kyle T. Jones
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike
Irish Mike, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 12/18/2008
10:12 AM or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on
Usenet:

> Fourth, he may be your Messiah but there are 55,000,000+ of us who didn't
> vote for Obama - and I'm proud to be one of them.
>
> Irish Mike
>

Interestingly, when Bush won an even closer election, you didn't point
to the fact that there were many, many millions who didn't vote for him.

Nope, then it was all about how The Bush received The! Most! Votes! Ever!!!!

Can hypocrisy reach the point of true mental derangement? I'm not sure,
but I'm keeping my eyes on *you*, friend, to find out.

Cheers.


    
Date: 18 Dec 2008 21:36:47
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike

"Kyle T. Jones" <KBfoMe@realdomain.net > wrote in message
news:gieept$3tm$2@news.motzarella.org...
> Irish Mike, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 12/18/2008
> 10:12 AM or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on
> Usenet:
>
>> Fourth, he may be your Messiah but there are 55,000,000+ of us who didn't
>> vote for Obama - and I'm proud to be one of them.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>>
>
> Interestingly, when Bush won an even closer election, you didn't point to
> the fact that there were many, many millions who didn't vote for him.
>
> Nope, then it was all about how The Bush received The! Most! Votes!
> Ever!!!!
>
> Can hypocrisy reach the point of true mental derangement? I'm not sure,
> but I'm keeping my eyes on *you*, friend, to find out.
>
> Cheers.

You are correct that both elections were close. However, it was those with
their heads in the Obama kool aid bucket who tried to claim their Messiah
won a "landslide" victory. There were 117,000,000 million votes cast,
including all the phony ones the ACORN crooks could jerry-rig for Obama.
[BTW, what ever happened to those voter fraud charges that were filed
against ACORN in 13 states?] 62,000,000 voted for Obama and 55,000,000+ of
us who didn't vote for him. Don't know about you bucko, but 7M out of 117M
doesn't qualify as a "landslide" in my book.

Irish Mike




     
Date: 19 Dec 2008 09:17:28
From: Kyle T. Jones
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike
Irish Mike, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 12/18/2008
8:36 PM or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on
Usenet:
> "Kyle T. Jones" <KBfoMe@realdomain.net> wrote in message
> news:gieept$3tm$2@news.motzarella.org...
>> Irish Mike, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 12/18/2008
>> 10:12 AM or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on
>> Usenet:
>>
>>> Fourth, he may be your Messiah but there are 55,000,000+ of us who didn't
>>> vote for Obama - and I'm proud to be one of them.
>>>
>>> Irish Mike
>>>
>> Interestingly, when Bush won an even closer election, you didn't point to
>> the fact that there were many, many millions who didn't vote for him.
>>
>> Nope, then it was all about how The Bush received The! Most! Votes!
>> Ever!!!!
>>
>> Can hypocrisy reach the point of true mental derangement? I'm not sure,
>> but I'm keeping my eyes on *you*, friend, to find out.
>>
>> Cheers.
>
> You are correct that both elections were close. However, it was those with
> their heads in the Obama kool aid bucket who tried to claim their Messiah
> won a "landslide" victory. There were 117,000,000 million votes cast,
> including all the phony ones the ACORN crooks could jerry-rig for Obama.
> [BTW, what ever happened to those voter fraud charges that were filed
> against ACORN in 13 states?] 62,000,000 voted for Obama and 55,000,000+ of
> us who didn't vote for him. Don't know about you bucko, but 7M out of 117M
> doesn't qualify as a "landslide" in my book.
>
> Irish Mike
>
>

Yeah, I don't think it was a landslide in terms of the overall popular vote.

Pretty "landslide-ish" in terms of the electoral count, though.

Cheers.


   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 11:54:29
From: Kingo Gondo
Subject: Re: Prediction about Irish Mike
Dick Morris, liar and known perv is your "source", which you clearly embrace
as your own.

"The negroes stole our dates!"

When your generation is dead, this will be a far better country. Do your
part ASAP.




 
Date: 17 Dec 2008 22:12:10
From: hanks
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> DICK MORRIS'
> December 16, 2008
>
> 2009: A PREDICTION
> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening of
> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look for
> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy will
> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform American
> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-in
> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly dropping
> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> today."
>
>
>
> Irish Mike
President elect Barack Obama won the United States' Presidential election,
what have you done lately that qualifies you to demean this great man? You
unmitigated piece of animal excrement .

hanks

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Date: 21 Dec 2008 14:37:22
From: The Decider
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
In article <q66p16x1gp.ln2@recgroups.com >
"hanks" <hank...@aol.com > wrote:
>
> On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > DICK MORRIS'
> > December 16, 2008
> >
> > 2009: A PREDICTION
> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening of
> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look for
> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy will
> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform American
> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-in
> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly dropping
> > ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> > today."
> >
> >
> >
> > Irish Mike
> President elect Barack Obama won the United States' Presidential election,
> what have you done lately that qualifies you to demean this great man? You
> unmitigated piece of animal excrement .
>
> hanks

shut the fuck up stoopid

























  
Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:03:49
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 17 2008 10:12 PM, hanks wrote:

> On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > DICK MORRIS'
> > December 16, 2008
> >
> > 2009: A PREDICTION
> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening of
> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
for
> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
will
> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
American
> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-in
> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
dropping
> > ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> > today."
> >
> >
> >
> > Irish Mike
> President elect Barack Obama won the United States' Presidential election,
> what have you done lately that qualifies you to demean this great man? You
> unmitigated piece of animal excrement .
>
> hanks

I'll go back 8 years to find your similar post about president Bush, as
I'm sure you felt the same way.


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Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:41:32
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
"brewmaster" <a163b@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:l79p16xgop.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 17 2008 10:12 PM, hanks wrote:
>
>> On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>>
>> > DICK MORRIS'
>> > December 16, 2008
>> >
>> > 2009: A PREDICTION
>> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening
>> > of
>> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
> for
>> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America
>> > into
>> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the
>> > economy
>> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
> will
>> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
>> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
> American
>> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
>> > built-in
>> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
> dropping
>> > ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
>> > today."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Irish Mike
>> President elect Barack Obama won the United States' Presidential
>> election,
>> what have you done lately that qualifies you to demean this great man?
>> You
>> unmitigated piece of animal excrement .
>>
>> hanks
>
> I'll go back 8 years to find your similar post about president Bush, as
> I'm sure you felt the same way.

But he'd have been right.

Jim




    
Date: 18 Dec 2008 00:00:01
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 17 2008 11:41 PM, Clave wrote:

> "brewmaster" <a163b@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:l79p16xgop.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 17 2008 10:12 PM, hanks wrote:
> >
> >> On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >>
> >> > DICK MORRIS'
> >> > December 16, 2008
> >> >
> >> > 2009: A PREDICTION
> >> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening
> >> > of
> >> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
> > for
> >> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America
> >> > into
> >> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the
> >> > economy
> >> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
> > will
> >> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> >> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
> > American
> >> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
> >> > built-in
> >> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
> > dropping
> >> > ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> >> > today."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Irish Mike
> >> President elect Barack Obama won the United States' Presidential
> >> election,
> >> what have you done lately that qualifies you to demean this great man?
> >> You
> >> unmitigated piece of animal excrement .
> >>
> >> hanks
> >
> > I'll go back 8 years to find your similar post about president Bush, as
> > I'm sure you felt the same way.
>
> But he'd have been right.

I meant the part where he would have said "President-elect George W. Bush
won the United States presidential election" not the part where he called
someone a piece of shit.

Unfortunately, you libs don't praise anybody unless they agree with you.

>
> Jim


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Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:58:01
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
"brewmaster" <a163b@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:1hcp16x1vp.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 17 2008 11:41 PM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "brewmaster" <a163b@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:l79p16xgop.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Dec 17 2008 10:12 PM, hanks wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > DICK MORRIS'
>> >> > December 16, 2008
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009: A PREDICTION
>> >> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and
>> >> > deepening
>> >> > of
>> >> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy,
>> >> > look
>> > for
>> >> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America
>> >> > into
>> >> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the
>> >> > economy
>> >> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the
>> >> > economy
>> > will
>> >> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will
>> >> > do
>> >> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
>> > American
>> >> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
>> >> > built-in
>> >> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
>> > dropping
>> >> > ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush
>> >> > is
>> >> > today."
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Irish Mike
>> >> President elect Barack Obama won the United States' Presidential
>> >> election,
>> >> what have you done lately that qualifies you to demean this great man?
>> >> You
>> >> unmitigated piece of animal excrement .
>> >>
>> >> hanks
>> >
>> > I'll go back 8 years to find your similar post about president Bush, as
>> > I'm sure you felt the same way.
>>
>> But he'd have been right.
>
> I meant the part where he would have said "President-elect George W. Bush
> won the United States presidential election" not the part where he called
> someone a piece of shit.
>
> Unfortunately, you libs don't praise anybody unless they agree with you.

You know painfully little of my politics or whom I praise or criticize.

Jim




 
Date: 17 Dec 2008 22:00:47
From: hanks
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 17 2008 8:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> DICK MORRIS'
> December 16, 2008
>
> 2009: A PREDICTION
> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening of
> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look for
> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy will
> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform American
> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-in
> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly dropping
> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> today."
>
>
>
> Irish Mike
Do you have any original thoughts you cirrhotic alien. That plan didn't
work for FDR either, I suppose! You are truly a kool-aid drinking moron.

hanks

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 10:42:57
From: Kingo Gondo
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
Wow, European socialism--you mean like this:

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/130606.html

Or Pat Buchanan writing this in latest issue of The American Conservative?:

BARACK OBAMA and George W. Bush

seem to have come away from their

study of the Great Depression with similar

conclusions.

To wit: after the Crash of 1929, the

Federal Reserve did not move fast

enough to save the banks and inject

cash into the economy. Second, the New

Deal, far from being wastrel deficit

spending, was not bold enough. So it

was that America wallowed in depression

for a decade until the unbridled

spending and mammoth deficits of

World War II pulled us out.

Bush and Obama seem determined

not to make the same mistake. We are all

Keynesians now.

Thus we have the $700 billion Bush

bank bailout, the $700 billion "stimulus

package" Obama wants by inauguration

to "jolt this economy back into shape,"

and the $800 billion fund Hank Paulson

created to get consumers borrowing and

buying again.

These come on top of Bush's $455 billion

deficit, the $29 billion bailout of

Bear Stearns, the $105 billion in pork to

grease the $700 billion bailout, the $100

to $200 billion to keep Fannie and Freddie

afloat, the $140 billion and counting

for AIG, the $25 billion for the greening

of GM, Ford, and Chrysler, the $25 billion

more to save the Big Three, and the

$20 billion for CitiGroup.

Now much of this overlaps and some

will be retrieved. But we are still staring

at a deficit that could approach $2 trillion.

How would this stack up historically?

A deficit of $1.4 trillion would be 10

percent of gross domestic product,

dwarfing the postwar record 6 percent

run by Ronald Reagan in the Jimmy

Carter recession.

Bewailing the "Reagan deficits" has

been a staple of Democratic oratory.

This will stop. But the politics is not the

point, the policy is.

Consider what we are about to do.

Bush in 2008 spent 21 percent of GDP.

States, counties, and cities spent another

12 percent. One third of GDP is therefore

spent by government at all levels.

Obama and Co. propose to raise that by

another 10 percent of GDP. We may

soon be north of 40 percent of gross

domestic product controlled and spent

by government.

That is Eurosocialism. And where

exactly are we going to get the money?

Americans save nothing. We spend

more than we earn: thus the levels of

consumer debt, credit-card debt, auto

debt, and mortgage debt. U.S. foreignexchange

reserves amount to a piddling

$73 billion.

The only nation with the kind of cash

on hand we need now-if we don't print

the money and invite another gigantic

bubble-is China, with its $2 trillion in

foreign-exchange reserves.

Will Beijing lend back the dollars it

has piled up? China certainly has an

incentive to keep Americans spending.

For our purchases of Chinese-made

goods have often been responsible for

100 percent of China's growth. China

does not want to kill the American

goose that lays those golden eggs-until

the goose can't lay any more eggs. Then

they won't need the goose.

But should China decide to lend us

the money, what will Beijing demand in

interest rates and assurances that we

will not default? After all, the U.S. debt is

70 percent of GDP, our savings rate is

near zero, and our merchandise trade

deficit is still running at 5 percent to 6

percent of GDP.

Unlike the 1950s, we are today

dependent on foreigners for two-thirds

of our oil and for much of our manufactured

goods-toys, TVs, radios, cameras,

cars, shoes, clothes, bikes, motorcycles-

and for the $700 billion to $800

billion we borrow each year to pay for

these imports.

With U.S. homeowners, consumers,

companies, and banks now going bust,

why must the nation borrow trillions

more to bail them out? So we can maintain

our status and standard of living as

the last superpower.

Bush and Obama are competing to

shovel out trillions of dollars, so we can

return to the good times of yesterday.

But wasn't yesterday the root cause

of today? Didn't saving nothing and

spending more than we earn, purchasing

what we cannot afford in cars, consumer

goods, and houses, buying far

more from abroad than we sell

abroad-didn't that cause this crisis

and crash?

A family man in America's condition,

awash in debt, spending more than he

makes, would cut back consumption,

find a second job, and get out of debt. Or

declare bankruptcy, accept the shame

and humiliation, change his ways, and

start anew. Is it different for a nation?

Yet we seem to believe we can borrow

and spend our way out of a swamp of

unpayable debt into which borrowing

and spending have plunged us.

We are headed either for default on

our debts and bankruptcy as a nation or

something less honorable: a quiet cheapening

of the debts we have incurred by

inflating and destroying the dollar, robbing

our creditors of what we owe them

and robbing our own people of the value

of what they have earned. And so it has

come to this.

What would the Founding Fathers

think of us now?




  
Date: 18 Dec 2008 01:05:38
From: John B
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
Two major things I'm afraid that will hurt the USA will be his
nominating extremely liberal judges to the USSC, and passing the card
check unionization which halts all secret ballots.



   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 15:13:45
From: Kyle T. Jones
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
Nortwoods@webtv.net (John B), my dear, dear friend, there was this time,
oh, 12/18/2008 12:05 AM or thereabouts, when you let the following
craziness loose on Usenet:
> Two major things I'm afraid that will hurt the USA will be his
> nominating extremely liberal judges to the USSC, and passing the card
> check unionization which halts all secret ballots.
>


The union thing could go either way, I think. On the issue of the
Justices: like, duh. I just mean, you say that like it could go either
way (two major things I'm afraid...).

Of course an extremely liberal (most liberal of my lifetime, I believe)
President who often speaks of our horrible money-culture and demonizes
the pursuit of "expensive suits, nice cars", is going to appoint liberal
Justices.

Can't hold it against him, any more than you could hold the appointment
of conservative Justices against the (R) Presidents. Who have, after
all, appointed seven of the current nine. Challenges to Roe? None.
Gee, it's almost like they consider Roe to be so useful an issue, they
don't *want* to challenge it.

It's amazing that no one ever wants to comment on that little booger.
Especially here in RGPOT, where you can pretty much guarantee a new
abortion thread each week. It's, like, something you could set yer
watch to, and stuff.

Cheers.


   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:33:33
From: MrBookworm
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
> Two major things I'm afraid that will hurt the USA will be his
> nominating extremely liberal judges to the USSC, and passing the card
> check unionization which halts all secret ballots.

I can't see those being "major things". He may or may not even nominate a
judge and most people aren't affected by that union issue.

Dean

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 02:08:54
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"John B" <Nortwoods@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:14467-4949E832-47@storefull-3312.bay.webtv.net...
> Two major things I'm afraid that will hurt the USA will be his
> nominating extremely liberal judges to the USSC, and passing the card
> check unionization which halts all secret ballots.
>

I agree bucko and you can count on Obama doing both of those things just as
fast as he can. In addition, Obama and his pals on the lunatic liberal left
and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, handcuff America's data gathering
capability, close Gitmo, ban effective interrogation techniques and
demoralize the CIA and the military. This will most likely result in
another terrorist attack on American soil.

Irish Mike




    
Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:23:52
From: poker widow
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 18 2008 2:08 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "John B" <Nortwoods@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14467-4949E832-47@storefull-3312.bay.webtv.net...
> > Two major things I'm afraid that will hurt the USA will be his
> > nominating extremely liberal judges to the USSC, and passing the card
> > check unionization which halts all secret ballots.
> >
>
> I agree bucko and you can count on Obama doing both of those things just as
> fast as he can. In addition, Obama and his pals on the lunatic liberal left
> and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, handcuff America's data gathering
> capability, close Gitmo, ban effective interrogation techniques and
> demoralize the CIA and the military. This will most likely result in
> another terrorist attack on American soil.
>
> Irish Mike
Mike i hope someday you need a lobotomy and your doctor can't do it
because of his moral or religious beliefs. we can then finally all thanks
GW for something.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 20:52:37
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:23:52 -0800, "poker widow"
<johnnycadilac@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Mike i hope someday you need a lobotomy

Umm. He'll never NEED a lobotomy. Not again, anyway.


    
Date: 18 Dec 2008 03:36:42
From: MZB
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
Thank goodness (or your imaginary fairy tale God) for Obama, the ACLU, and
the needed liberal judges he will appoint.

Mel
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:hGm2l.10524$be.8722@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "John B" <Nortwoods@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:14467-4949E832-47@storefull-3312.bay.webtv.net...
>> Two major things I'm afraid that will hurt the USA will be his
>> nominating extremely liberal judges to the USSC, and passing the card
>> check unionization which halts all secret ballots.
>>
>
> I agree bucko and you can count on Obama doing both of those things just
> as fast as he can. In addition, Obama and his pals on the lunatic liberal
> left and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, handcuff America's data
> gathering capability, close Gitmo, ban effective interrogation techniques
> and demoralize the CIA and the military. This will most likely result in
> another terrorist attack on American soil.
>
> Irish Mike
>




 
Date: 17 Dec 2008 21:50:47
From: gtech1
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
Is this your prediction?

On Dec 17 2008 11:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> DICK MORRIS'
> December 16, 2008
>
> 2009: A PREDICTION
> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening of
> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look for
> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy will
> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform American
> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-in
> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly dropping
> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> today."
>
>
>
> Irish Mike

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 04:05:48
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 18, 1:02=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "gtech1" <duanepritch...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:nu4p16x9bp.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> > Is this your prediction?
>
> Is this my prediction? No. =A0Do I think Obama will fix the economy? =A0N=
o. =A0Do
> I think Obama will move American toward socialism? =A0Yes, just as far an=
d
> just as fast as he can. =A0Do I think he will become as unpopular by the =
end
> of 2009 as President Bush currently is? =A0No. =A0Obama's still got the l=
iberal
> media kissing his ass and they sold out any journalistic integrity they
> might once have had, to get him elected. =A0They'll never investigage or
> report on his fuck-ups. =A0 Obama is only vulnerable in one area and that=
is
> if there is another terrorist attack on American soil. =A0He and his pals=
on
> the lunatic liberal left and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, close
> Gitmo, handcuff America's intelligence gathering operations and out law a=
ny
> kind of harsh interrogation techniques. =A0If this leads to another terro=
rist
> attack on American soil, which I believe it will, then the American peopl=
e
> are going to blame Obama for it. =A0And they'll tell Oprah, Hollywood, th=
e
> liberal left loons and Chris "I felt a thrill run up my leg when I heard
> Obama speak" Matthews to go fuck themselves.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> Proud to be one of the 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for The
> Messiah.
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17 2008 11:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> >> DICK MORRIS'
> >> December 16, 2008
>
> >> 2009: A PREDICTION
> >> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepenin=
g
> >> of
> >> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, loo=
k
> >> for
> >> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America in=
to
> >> conformity with the government domination of health care and the econo=
my
> >> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
> >> will
> >> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> >> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
> >> American
> >> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
> >> built-in
> >> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
> >> dropping
> >> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> >> today."
>
> >> Irish Mike

That is quite a Christmas list you got there Bucko! I hope you like
crow because there is a distinct possibility that you will be shitting
it for quite some time!

I think the press has set the bar pretty low for Obama so he will have
to try very hard to hit Bush's approval level by the end of next year.
Gallup has Bush at < 30% currently. Anybody care to wager? I will even
give you 10 Gallup points!





   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 08:06:27
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"Porsche_Dan" <Porsche.Dan@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:0610e0a2-11de-4021-9d9c-1664eee73039@w1g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 18, 1:02 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "gtech1" <duanepritch...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:nu4p16x9bp.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> > Is this your prediction?
>
> Is this my prediction? No. Do I think Obama will fix the economy? No. Do
> I think Obama will move American toward socialism? Yes, just as far and
> just as fast as he can. Do I think he will become as unpopular by the end
> of 2009 as President Bush currently is? No. Obama's still got the liberal
> media kissing his ass and they sold out any journalistic integrity they
> might once have had, to get him elected. They'll never investigage or
> report on his fuck-ups. Obama is only vulnerable in one area and that is
> if there is another terrorist attack on American soil. He and his pals on
> the lunatic liberal left and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, close
> Gitmo, handcuff America's intelligence gathering operations and out law
> any
> kind of harsh interrogation techniques. If this leads to another terrorist
> attack on American soil, which I believe it will, then the American people
> are going to blame Obama for it. And they'll tell Oprah, Hollywood, the
> liberal left loons and Chris "I felt a thrill run up my leg when I heard
> Obama speak" Matthews to go fuck themselves.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> Proud to be one of the 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for The
> Messiah.
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17 2008 11:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> >> DICK MORRIS'
> >> December 16, 2008
>
> >> 2009: A PREDICTION
> >> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening
> >> of
> >> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
> >> for
> >> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America
> >> into
> >> conformity with the government domination of health care and the
> >> economy
> >> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
> >> will
> >> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> >> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
> >> American
> >> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
> >> built-in
> >> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
> >> dropping
> >> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> >> today."
>
> >> Irish Mike

That is quite a Christmas list you got there Bucko! I hope you like
crow because there is a distinct possibility that you will be shitting
it for quite some time!

I think the press has set the bar pretty low for Obama so he will have
to try very hard to hit Bush's approval level by the end of next year.
Gallup has Bush at < 30% currently. Anybody care to wager? I will even
give you 10 Gallup points!

As I said bucko, Obama can get away with any thing he wants and the main
stream liberal media will sweep it under the rug. Assuming they acknowledge
it at all. If he doesn't turn this economy around in 2009, people are going
to start getting impatient. But even though it was the Democrat's
entitlement subprime loans that started the financial crash, the media will
help Obama pin it all on George Bush. But if, God forbid, there is another
terrorist attack on American soil, even Obama's MSNBC propaganda machine
and Oprah won't be able to spin that one.

Irish Mike





  
Date: 18 Dec 2008 02:02:04
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"gtech1" <duanepritchett@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:nu4p16x9bp.ln2@recgroups.com...
> Is this your prediction?

Is this my prediction? No. Do I think Obama will fix the economy? No. Do
I think Obama will move American toward socialism? Yes, just as far and
just as fast as he can. Do I think he will become as unpopular by the end
of 2009 as President Bush currently is? No. Obama's still got the liberal
media kissing his ass and they sold out any journalistic integrity they
might once have had, to get him elected. They'll never investigage or
report on his fuck-ups. Obama is only vulnerable in one area and that is
if there is another terrorist attack on American soil. He and his pals on
the lunatic liberal left and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, close
Gitmo, handcuff America's intelligence gathering operations and out law any
kind of harsh interrogation techniques. If this leads to another terrorist
attack on American soil, which I believe it will, then the American people
are going to blame Obama for it. And they'll tell Oprah, Hollywood, the
liberal left loons and Chris "I felt a thrill run up my leg when I heard
Obama speak" Matthews to go fuck themselves.

Irish Mike

Proud to be one of the 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for The
Messiah.


>
> On Dec 17 2008 11:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> DICK MORRIS'
>> December 16, 2008
>>
>> 2009: A PREDICTION
>> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening
>> of
>> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
>> for
>> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
>> conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
>> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
>> will
>> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
>> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
>> American
>> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
>> built-in
>> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
>> dropping
>> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
>> today."
>>
>>
>>
>> Irish Mike





   
Date: 18 Dec 2008 13:21:22
From: poker widow
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 18 2008 2:02 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "gtech1" <duanepritchett@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:nu4p16x9bp.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > Is this your prediction?
>
> Is this my prediction? No. Do I think Obama will fix the economy? No. Do
> I think Obama will move American toward socialism? Yes, just as far and
> just as fast as he can. Do I think he will become as unpopular by the end
> of 2009 as President Bush currently is? No. Obama's still got the liberal
> media kissing his ass and they sold out any journalistic integrity they
> might once have had, to get him elected. They'll never investigage or
> report on his fuck-ups. Obama is only vulnerable in one area and that is
> if there is another terrorist attack on American soil. He and his pals on
> the lunatic liberal left and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act, close
> Gitmo, handcuff America's intelligence gathering operations and out law any
> kind of harsh interrogation techniques. If this leads to another terrorist
> attack on American soil, which I believe it will, then the American people
> are going to blame Obama for it. And they'll tell Oprah, Hollywood, the
> liberal left loons and Chris "I felt a thrill run up my leg when I heard
> Obama speak" Matthews to go fuck themselves.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> Proud to be one of the 55,000,000+ Americans who did not vote for The
> Messiah.
>
>
> >
> > On Dec 17 2008 11:45 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >
> >> DICK MORRIS'
> >> December 16, 2008
> >>
> >> 2009: A PREDICTION
> >> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening
> >> of
> >> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
> >> for
> >> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> >> conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> >> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
> >> will
> >> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> >> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
> >> American
> >> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
> >> built-in
> >> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
> >> dropping
> >> ratings. By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is
> >> today."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Irish Mike
MIKE i bet you are also one who is proud to have voted 2 times for the
worst pres in history GWbush. you biggoted moron. ur bushie let his
friends loot us till we fell into collapse. we predicted the bush years to
a tea... we knew his last year in office would be the worst looting of
america in history. we just didn't know how he was gonna do it.. the great
bailout for his friends on wall street, not main street. you must be one
of them.

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Date: 18 Dec 2008 09:38:22
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:02:04 -0500, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote:

>.... Obama's still got the liberal
>media kissing his ass and they sold out any journalistic integrity they
>might once have had, to get him elected. They'll never investigage or
>report on his fuck-ups....

I wonder why you have such a low opinion of journalists, Mike. I can almost
understand it when it comes to tv journalists, because, like many other supposed
professionals on tv, they are chosen primarily for their looks (we're an
incredibly weak society in this regard.)

But I know an awful lot of [primarily print and radio] journalists, who work for
companies like CQ, Scripps, NYT, AJC, the Post, Wash. Times, and many weeklies
and monthlies. I would say that, as a group, they constitute the most idealistic
(to the principles of journalism) and dedicated profession I've come across.
Nothing -- except perhaps an imminent threat to national security -- would ever
be allowed to stand in the way of a story.

When you speak of "checks and balances," forget branches of government --
journalists are the most important checks and balances we have.

-- Larry


   
Date: 17 Dec 2008 23:08:36
From: Dutch
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:Tzm2l.10523$be.4997@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "gtech1" <duanepritchett@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:nu4p16x9bp.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> Is this your prediction?
>
> Is this my prediction? No. Do I think Obama will fix the economy? No.
> Do I think Obama will move American toward socialism? Yes, just as far
> and just as fast as he can. Do I think he will become as unpopular by the
> end of 2009 as President Bush currently is? No. Obama's still got the
> liberal media kissing his ass and they sold out any journalistic integrity
> they might once have had, to get him elected. They'll never investigage
> or report on his fuck-ups. Obama is only vulnerable in one area and that
> is if there is another terrorist attack on American soil. He and his pals
> on the lunatic liberal left and at the ACLU will gut the patriot act,
> close Gitmo, handcuff America's intelligence gathering operations and out
> law any kind of harsh interrogation techniques. If this leads to another
> terrorist attack on American soil, which I believe it will, then the
> American people are going to blame Obama for it. And they'll tell Oprah,
> Hollywood, the liberal left loons and Chris "I felt a thrill run up my leg
> when I heard Obama speak" Matthews to go fuck themselves.
>
> Irish Mike

What a sad, bitter old man, a prisoner of your own right-wing rhetoric. I
think that deep inside you hope the country goes to hell just so you can
dance on the ashes.





 
Date: 17 Dec 2008 20:56:29
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
On Dec 17, 8:45=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> DICK MORRIS'
> December 16, 2008
>
> 2009: A PREDICTION
> "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening o=
f
> the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look f=
or
> Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy wi=
ll
> still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform Americ=
an
> life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-i=
n
> majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly droppi=
ng
> ratings.

"By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is today."

Want to bet on it?

- Bob T.
>
> Irish Mike



  
Date: 21 Dec 2008 05:40:25
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
In article <b5ad4477-fc0b-4554-87bf-
75a1ad9a2d3d@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com >
"Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com > wrote:
>
> On Dec 17, 8:45=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> > DICK MORRIS'
> > December 16, 2008
> >
> > 2009: A PREDICTION
> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening o=
> f
> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look f=
> or
> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America into
> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the economy
> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy wi=
> ll
> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform Americ=
> an
> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his built-i=
> n
> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly droppi=
> ng
> > ratings.
>
> "By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is today."
>


> Want to bet on it?
>
> - Bob T.
> >
> > Irish Mike

Hardly get's any sophomoric than that! DOES IT? But sure, if you
have ENOUGH money, give the right odds, where do I sign up???
Tell you what MR T, you get an attorney and POST have him post
your email address, and your home address, cite verification of
available funds and property owned, or your attorneys address
and the name you used that are connected to those funds and
property, get it all notorized, post it, I'll have my attorney
contact you, and we can get something arranged. BUT FIRST - HOW
MUCH MONEY ARE YOU WILLING TO WAGER??? Put up or shut the fuck
up.

The Decider


Il mittente di questo messaggio


   
Date: 21 Dec 2008 00:15:06
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama

"George Orwell" <nobody@mixmaster.it > wrote in message
news:e8822a3b8c220efc46ac23cecabbbd52@mixmaster.it...
> In article <b5ad4477-fc0b-4554-87bf-
> 75a1ad9a2d3d@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>
> "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 17, 8:45=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>> > DICK MORRIS'
>> > December 16, 2008
>> >
>> > 2009: A PREDICTION
>> > "The politics of 2009 will be dominated by a continuation and deepening
>> > o=
>> f
>> > the global Depression. Under the guise of stimulating the economy, look
>> > f=
>> or
>> > Obama to pursue a radical, socialist agenda that will bring America
>> > into
>> > conformity with the government domination of health care and the
>> > economy
>> > that prevails in the European Union. When the dust clears, the economy
>> > wi=
>> ll
>> > still be in the tank. The new president's stimulation packages will do
>> > little or nothing to abate the depression, but they will transform
>> > Americ=
>> an
>> > life and politics. For his part, Obama will take advantage of his
>> > built-i=
>> n
>> > majorities in Congress to pass his agenda, but will suffer rapidly
>> > droppi=
>> ng
>> > ratings.
>>
>> "By the end of the year, he will be as radioactive as Bush is today."
>>
>
>
>> Want to bet on it?
>>
>> - Bob T.
>> >
>> > Irish Mike
>
> Hardly get's any sophomoric than that! DOES IT? But sure, if you
> have ENOUGH money, give the right odds, where do I sign up???
> Tell you what MR T, you get an attorney and POST have him post
> your email address, and your home address, cite verification of
> available funds and property owned, or your attorneys address
> and the name you used that are connected to those funds and
> property, get it all notorized, post it, I'll have my attorney
> contact you, and we can get something arranged. BUT FIRST - HOW
> MUCH MONEY ARE YOU WILLING TO WAGER??? Put up or shut the fuck
> up.
>
> The Decider
>
>
> Il mittente di questo messaggio


    
Date: 23 Dec 2008 10:50:16
From: Kyle T. Jones
Subject: Re: Prediction about Obama
Irish Mike, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 12/21/2008
12:15 AM or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on
Usenet:

> Bob T. and I don't agree on any thing when it comes to politics. But I will
> say he is a man of his word when it comes to a bet and he will pay off, in
> full, if he loses.
>
> Irish Mike
> B
>>

I doubt very much the same can be said about George, a minor-league
troll who's one claim to fame is the sheer volume of newsgroups he
manages to irritate.

Cheers.