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Date: 05 Dec 2008 13:10:43
From: Travel
Subject: O.J. Gets 15
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 14:27:28
From: DaVoice
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"Travel" <nine510@webtv.net > wrote in message
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
Actually. According to the Local D.A. here in LV O.J. OFFICIALLY received
9-33 years with first chance at parole in 6 years. I'll put the Over/Under
at 11 years (if he lives that long, he is 61 ya know)
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 08:44:38
From: Mark Stringer
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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No matter what he's done in his life, he always seemed to have a
steady stream of blonds that'd line up to f*ck him. I guess that's
not going to change now.
I saw a quick clip yesterday and he looked like W at the G20 summit,
totally beaten down.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 16:45:45
From: Lynx
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> No matter what he's done in his life, he always seemed to have a
> steady stream of blonds that'd line up to f*ck him. I guess that's
> not going to change now.
You guess that's NOT going to change now? Based on where he's going to be
living, if there are a steady stream of blonds that want to fuck him,
they're not going to be women.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 17:37:33
From: BillB
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"Travel" <nine510@webtv.net > wrote in message
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> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
Seems unduly harsh to me.
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 13:33:08
From: Mr Bungle 34
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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Popinjay's just expressing his gut feelings. Is he not allowed to have
gut feelings you argumentative assholes?
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 19:22:03
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 7, 3:07=A0pm, Joe <need_s...@info.com > wrote:
> > Porsche_Dan <Porsche....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That said, I probably would have shanked the nigger in the court room
> > after one of those famous fucking smirks of his.
>
> Sounds like you have a lifetime of hate inside you Danny boy.
How so? Do you know me? Do you belong to the Blackhawk Country Club?
Do you clean my pool? And it's Mr Porsche you insolent gas bag.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 09:17:13
From: Mr Bungle 34
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 7, 11:44=A0am, Porsche_Dan <Porsche....@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> That said, I probably would have shanked the nigger in the court room
> after one of those famous fucking smirks of his.
Classic!
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 08:44:01
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 5, 10:46=A0pm, CheckRazor <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> You know, Porsche_Dan, I used to think you were a pretty cool dude.
> You drive a Porsche, you live in a small house in an over-priced
> neighborhood, and you have a beautiful family.
>
> But what if that what was your daughter or your son?
>
> Do you really think the Goldmans' have millions?
>
> If =A0someone did that to your son or daughter, wouldn't you go after
> them with everything you have?
Good question.
A friend of mine lost his teenage son to a car accident. They boy was
a passenger and the driver was an asshole. Instead of going after the
driver, his family, the City, the County, the State, my friend started
a charity to educate teen drivers to PREVENT the tragedy that befell
them. It's called Maxwell's Pledge: http://www.sjpd.org/MaxwellsPledge/
Remember M.A.D.D.? How about John Walsh and America's most wanted? The
Goldmans turned their grief into a selfish, hateful, 14+ year lawyer
fueled vendetta. Hopefully this will bring them closure because 14
years is a long time to burn with hate inside. Nicole's family focused
on domestic abuse causes.
That said, I probably would have shanked the nigger in the court room
after one of those famous fucking smirks of his.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 21:07:01
From: Joe
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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> Porsche_Dan <Porsche.Dan@gmail.com> wrote:
> That said, I probably would have shanked the nigger in the court room
> after one of those famous fucking smirks of his.
Sounds like you have a lifetime of hate inside you Danny boy.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 13:44:42
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Porsche_Dan" <Porsche.Dan@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:542b5a58-ebd2-4cdf-9682-084d0e9a9631@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 5, 10:46 pm, CheckRazor <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> You know, Porsche_Dan, I used to think you were a pretty cool dude.
> You drive a Porsche, you live in a small house in an over-priced
> neighborhood, and you have a beautiful family.
>
> But what if that what was your daughter or your son?
>
> Do you really think the Goldmans' have millions?
>
> If someone did that to your son or daughter, wouldn't you go after
> them with everything you have?
Good question.
A friend of mine lost his teenage son to a car accident. They boy was
a passenger and the driver was an asshole. Instead of going after the
driver, his family, the City, the County, the State, my friend started
a charity to educate teen drivers to PREVENT the tragedy that befell
them. It's called Maxwell's Pledge: http://www.sjpd.org/MaxwellsPledge/
Remember M.A.D.D.? How about John Walsh and America's most wanted? The
Goldmans turned their grief into a selfish, hateful, 14+ year lawyer
fueled vendetta. Hopefully this will bring them closure because 14
years is a long time to burn with hate inside. Nicole's family focused
on domestic abuse causes.
That said, I probably would have shanked the nigger in the court room
after one of those famous fucking smirks of his.
Got to give you credit bucko, this is one of the more interesting and
entertaining posts I've read on RGP.
I'm sitting here trying to figure out if you're a bleeding heart, a racist
or a man of honor?
Irish Mike
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 11:41:50
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Porsche_Dan" <Porsche.Dan@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:542b5a58-ebd2-4cdf-9682-084d0e9a9631@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
Remember M.A.D.D.? How about John Walsh and America's most wanted? The
Goldmans turned their grief into a selfish, hateful, 14+ year lawyer
fueled vendetta. Hopefully this will bring them closure because 14
years is a long time to burn with hate inside. Nicole's family focused
on domestic abuse causes.
_________________________________
It's just a lawful way for them to fuel their grief. Give'em a break, man,
their child was murdered. That's a long, hard, lonely road to walk down.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 10:59:30
From: Susan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Porsche_Dan" <Porsche.Dan@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:542b5a58-ebd2-4cdf-9682-084d0e9a9631@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 5, 10:46 pm, CheckRazor <Luv2skibumps_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> You know, Porsche_Dan, I used to think you were a pretty cool dude.
> You drive a Porsche, you live in a small house in an over-priced
> neighborhood, and you have a beautiful family.
>
> But what if that what was your daughter or your son?
>
> Do you really think the Goldmans' have millions?
>
> If someone did that to your son or daughter, wouldn't you go after
> them with everything you have?
Good question.
A friend of mine lost his teenage son to a car accident. They boy was
a passenger and the driver was an asshole. Instead of going after the
driver, his family, the City, the County, the State, my friend started
a charity to educate teen drivers to PREVENT the tragedy that befell
them. It's called Maxwell's Pledge: http://www.sjpd.org/MaxwellsPledge/
Remember M.A.D.D.? How about John Walsh and America's most wanted? The
Goldmans turned their grief into a selfish, hateful, 14+ year lawyer
fueled vendetta. Hopefully this will bring them closure because 14
years is a long time to burn with hate inside. Nicole's family focused
on domestic abuse causes.
That said, I probably would have shanked the nigger in the court room
after one of those famous fucking smirks of his.
......................................................
I totally agree with every point you made in this post Dan.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 20:46:44
From: CheckRazor
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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You know, Porsche_Dan, I used to think you were a pretty cool dude.
You drive a Porsche, you live in a small house in an over-priced
neighborhood, and you have a beautiful family.
But what if that what was your daughter or your son?
Do you really think the Goldmans' have millions?
If someone did that to your son or daughter, wouldn't you go after
them with everything you have?
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 19:48:55
From: Mr Bungle 34
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 5, 10:11=A0pm, Porsche_Dan <Porsche....@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Dec 5, 7:37=A0pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
>
> > "Travel" <nine...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:1228505408.16152@pokermagazine.com...
>
> > >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
>
> > Seems unduly harsh to me.
>
> I don't care. Fuck the Goldman's too. This is how they remember their
> son? Paying lawyers millions to force OJ into a financial corner. Glad
> they can finally shed tears of joy in exchange for OJ's kids tears of
> pain.
>
> BTW..... Here are the original crime scene photos:http://www.bobaugust.co=
m/photo.htm#no1
Wow...those photos are gruesome...
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 19:11:55
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 5, 7:37=A0pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca > wrote:
> "Travel" <nine...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1228505408.16152@pokermagazine.com...
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
>
> Seems unduly harsh to me.
I don't care. Fuck the Goldman's too. This is how they remember their
son? Paying lawyers millions to force OJ into a financial corner. Glad
they can finally shed tears of joy in exchange for OJ's kids tears of
pain.
BTW..... Here are the original crime scene photos: http://www.bobaugust.com=
/photo.htm#no1
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:09:23
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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> "Travel" <nine510@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:1228505408.16152@pokermagazine.com...
>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
>
> Seems unduly harsh to me.
Well of course it does Bill and I'm sure all your politically correct,
bleeding heart liberal pals feel the same way. Of course none of you felt
jack shit for the two people Simpson murdered. Simpson got what he
deserved - it was just 13 years over due and for a different crime. I hope
he dies in prison.
Irish Mike
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 19:33:50
From: gtech1
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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I am waiting for the day you post something that demonstrates anything
over a 4th-grade level of analysis. Let's try a question and answer: 1)
do you believe the result of Simpson's murder trial should've have any
bearing on this trial? 2) if so, why?
On Dec 5 2008 10:09 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> "BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
> news:yHk_k.1276$c%6.785@newsfe24.iad...
> >
> > "Travel" <nine510@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:1228505408.16152@pokermagazine.com...
> >
> >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
> >
> > Seems unduly harsh to me.
>
> Well of course it does Bill and I'm sure all your politically correct,
> bleeding heart liberal pals feel the same way. Of course none of you felt
> jack shit for the two people Simpson murdered. Simpson got what he
> deserved - it was just 13 years over due and for a different crime. I hope
> he dies in prison.
>
> Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 00:04:38
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"gtech1" <duanepritchett@comcast.net > wrote in message
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>I am waiting for the day you post something that demonstrates anything
> over a 4th-grade level of analysis. Let's try a question and answer: 1)
> do you believe the result of Simpson's murder trial should've have any
> bearing on this trial? 2) if so, why?
The judge in the case stated that the sentence she handed down had nothing
to do with Simpson's previous trials. I am waiting for the day you develop
reading comprehension skills beyond a fourth grade level.
Irish Mike
>
> On Dec 5 2008 10:09 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> "BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
>> news:yHk_k.1276$c%6.785@newsfe24.iad...
>> >
>> > "Travel" <nine510@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> > news:1228505408.16152@pokermagazine.com...
>> >
>> >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28067187/
>> >
>> > Seems unduly harsh to me.
>>
>> Well of course it does Bill and I'm sure all your politically correct,
>> bleeding heart liberal pals feel the same way. Of course none of you
>> felt
>> jack shit for the two people Simpson murdered. Simpson got what he
>> deserved - it was just 13 years over due and for a different crime. I
>> hope
>> he dies in prison.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 07:46:44
From: Abbey Johnsson
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 6 2008 12:04 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> The judge in the case stated that the sentence she handed down had nothing
> to do with Simpson's previous trials. I am waiting for the day you develop
> reading comprehension skills beyond a fourth grade level.
>
> Irish Mike
There must be comparables out there. I wonder what the average sentence is
for a first time offender commiting a similar crime in Nevada?
Plus i like the way they turn one crime into about 10 crimes ....count
1 armed robbery... count 2 armed robbery telling the victims to stay put
(kidnapping...thats a stretch) count 3 armed robbery by a
lefthander.....count 4 kidnapping while humming singing in the rain...
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 10:34:17
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> Plus i like the way they turn one crime into about 10 crimes ....count
> 1 armed robbery... count 2 armed robbery telling the victims to stay put
> (kidnapping...thats a stretch) count 3 armed robbery by a
> lefthander.....count 4 kidnapping while humming singing in the rain...
She even gave him 3 years consecutive for staying at the Palace Station.
Only part of the sentence I agreed with.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 09:10:24
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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> I saw a quick clip yesterday and he looked
> like W at the G20 summit, totally beaten down.
Yea. He was a football player, not a genius. We were always worried about
him showing up on a golf course and having to have him join us. Always go as
foursomes.
> Plus i like the way they turn one crime into about
> 10 crimes ....count 1 armed robbery... count 2
> armed robbery telling the victims to stay put (kidnapping...
It's called, stacking. We always added everything in the book in case some
lawyer found a way to get some removed. It also gave the DA something to
bargain with when they started plea-bargaining. First thing to go was
always, Resisting Arrest.
Jerry 'n Vegas
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 09:20:36
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
news:3ny_k.20952$st1.12623@newsfe10.iad...
>
>
> It's called, stacking. We always added everything in the book in case some
> lawyer found a way to get some removed. It also gave the DA something to
> bargain with when they started plea-bargaining. First thing to go was
> always, Resisting Arrest.
>
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
So essentially what you are saying, Jerry, is that you cops, by a matter of
policy, add as much to the charges as you can, even if you have to make shit
up.
-PP
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 15:54:03
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
>> It's called, stacking. We always added everything in the book in case
>> some
>> lawyer found a way to get some removed. It also gave the DA something to
>> bargain with when they started plea-bargaining. First thing to go was
>> always, Resisting Arrest.
>>
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas
> So essentially what you are saying, Jerry, is that you
> cops, by a matter of policy, add as much to the charges
> as you can, even if you have to make shit up.
No, that’s not what I’m saying. Where do you see me saying that? I’d go into
more explicit detail but it appears obvious it, too, would be over your
head.
Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 13:43:30
From: Ambi Valent
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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Paul Popinjay wrote:
> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3ny_k.20952$st1.12623@newsfe10.iad...
>
>> It's called, stacking. We always added everything in the book in case some
>> lawyer found a way to get some removed. It also gave the DA something to
>> bargain with when they started plea-bargaining. First thing to go was
>> always, Resisting Arrest.
>>
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas
>>
>
> So essentially what you are saying, Jerry, is that you cops, by a matter of
> policy, add as much to the charges as you can, even if you have to make shit
> up.
Dude, you have some serious reading comprehension problems.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 19:46:19
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Ambi Valent" <ambivalent@net.com > wrote in message
news:nJz_k.9439$c45.2442@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Paul Popinjay wrote:
>> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:3ny_k.20952$st1.12623@newsfe10.iad...
>>
>>> It's called, stacking. We always added everything in the book in case
>>> some
>>> lawyer found a way to get some removed. It also gave the DA something to
>>> bargain with when they started plea-bargaining. First thing to go was
>>> always, Resisting Arrest.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry 'n Vegas
>>>
>>
>> So essentially what you are saying, Jerry, is that you cops, by a matter
>> of policy, add as much to the charges as you can, even if you have to
>> make shit up.
>
> Dude, you have some serious reading comprehension problems.
But are you trying to say that Jerry never planted a gun on a simple
breaking & entering so that there would be a two-year enhancement or "use
allegation"? Are you saying that Jerry never found a simple possession of
drugs and then added a hand-scale to the evidence so there would be a
"possession for sale" beef to bargain with? I am sure Jerry would be the
first to admit that he and his buddies did this kind of shit regularly. Go
ahead, ask him. And then I will be waiting for your apology to me.
-Paul Popinjay
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 06:30:24
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
>>>> It's called, stacking. We always added everything in the book in case
>>>> some
>>>> lawyer found a way to get some removed. It also gave the DA something
>>>> to
>>>> bargain with when they started plea-bargaining. First thing to go was
>>>> always, Resisting Arrest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerry 'n Vegas
>>> So essentially what you are saying, Jerry, is that you cops, by a matter
>>> of policy, add as much to the charges as you can, even if you have to
>>> make shit up.
>> Dude, you have some serious reading comprehension problems.
> But are you trying to say that Jerry never planted a gun
> on a simple breaking & entering so that there would be a
> two-year enhancement or "use allegation"?
> Are you saying that Jerry never found a simple possession
> of drugs and then added a hand-scale to the evidence so
> there would be a "possession for sale" beef to bargain with?
He is no more saying that than I am. If you don’t have the aforementioned
reading comprehension problem he’s alluded to, it’s apparent you have a
thinking problem (among other social problems).
> I am sure Jerry would be the first to admit that he
> and his buddies did this kind of shit regularly.
And you're equally wrong here, too.
> Go ahead, ask him.
He won't have to, I’ve just answered in the negative.
> And then I will be waiting for your apology to me.
So I will wait here for your apology. Being the type of character you are, I
really don’t expect it.
Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 08:26:37
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
news:c6R_k.11315$ED.8680@newsfe22.iad...
>
>
> He won't have to, I've just answered in the negative.
>
Now wait just a minute, Jerry. It is one thing for you to deny ever doing
these things yourself. But it is entirely different if you are going to
expect us to believe that your other buddies on the force never did that
kinda shit. Are you saying that you did not know any other cops who planted
guns or doctored evidence? How long were you on the force? Ten minutes?
Ha! I am laughing my ass off as I am sure everyone else is who is reading
this. That is the most flagrant made-up bullshit I have ever seen on this
newsgroup. This is actually pretty funny because it is so feeble. I am
talking about police corruption, a very serious subject, and like children
you and Ambi are trying to twist this conversation around to talking about
my reading comprehension. Why are you trying to shift the focus of the
reader? Do you have something to hide? And who is this guy Ambi? Is he
one of your cop buddies? One of the guys you used to beat up vagrants with?
By the way, Ambi is a dumb name. I never met an Ambi before. That's just
weird.
-Paul Popinjay
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 09:56:13
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
> Now wait just a minute, Jerry. It is one thing for you
> to deny ever doing these things yourself.
You accused me of it. Where is your apology?
> … expect us to believe … Are you saying …
> … How long were you …. flagrant made-up bullshit …
> … pretty funny … you have something to hide? ….
> … who is this guy Ambi? …. one of your cop buddies? …
> … beat up vagrants with?
You got caught making up shit and now you're trying to question your way out
of it.
> Why are you trying to shift the focus of the reader?
I’m not. You are. You made an accusation and now trying to weasel out of it.
> Ha! I am laughing my ass …
Nervous laughter. I got you. Now where is my apology?
Jerry (waiting) 'n Vegas
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 10:33:18
From: Paul Popinjay
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
>
> You got caught making up shit and now you're trying to question your way
> out
> of it.
>
Oh sure, why don't you just cherry pick when you quote me. I also said
something about your buddy Ambi having a really dumb name. But you didn't
address THAT! You guys really stick together.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 13:35:32
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
>>> You got caught making up shit and now
>> you're trying to question your way out of it.
> Oh sure, why don't you just
> cherry pick when you quote me.
Here is what you posted:
> But are you trying to say that Jerry never planted a gun
> on a simple breaking & entering so that there would be a
> two-year enhancement or "use allegation"?
No I didn’t, but you went on:
> Are you saying that Jerry never found a simple possession
> of drugs and then added a hand-scale to the evidence so
> there would be a "possession for sale" beef to bargain with?
No I didn’t, but you went on:
> I am sure Jerry would be the first to admit
> that he and his buddies did this kind of shit regularly.
No I won’t because we didn’t. Then you said:
> Go ahead, ask him. And then I will be
> waiting for your apology to me.
So here we are waiting for your apology. But from reading your other post, I
don’t believe you have the morals.
Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 21:21:39
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>
>> I am sure Jerry would be the first to admit
>> that he and his buddies did this kind of shit regularly.
>
> No I won't because we didn't.
Like we're supposed to believe you? Especially when most sensible people
know that cops do that shit all the time? Get real!
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 04:16:49
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
> Like we're supposed to believe you?
“Like?” What are you, some sort of idiot kid from the Valley?
‘Like’ it’s you making up lies about other folks because you’re obviously
and idiot.
> Especially when most sensible people know that
> cops do that shit all the time? Get real!
Ah! I’ve found your problem: You aren’t a sensible person.
>> So here we are waiting for your apology.
>> But from reading your other post, I don’t
>> believe you have the morals.
Skip it, kid; you haven’t ‘sensibility’ or morals.
Jerry (laughing at the kids) ‘n Vegas
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 05:24:39
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>> Like we're supposed to believe you?
>
> "Like?" What are you, some sort of idiot kid from the Valley?
>
Hey Jerry, seriously, you've got to be one of the dumbest people to ever
post on this newsgroup. Take a look again at how "like" is used in that
sentence. It's not EVEN used in the manner that you are suggesting. Like,
y'know?
Dude, one thing I can say, I have never doubted that you were really trully
an ex-cop. I know you ain't making THAT up.
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:38:52
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1o8%k.2708$Xt.2417@newsfe13.iad...
>>
>> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>>
>>> Like we're supposed to believe you?
>>
>> "Like?" What are you, some sort of idiot kid from the Valley?
>>
>
> Hey Jerry, seriously, you've got to be one of the dumbest people to ever
> post on this newsgroup. Take a look again at how "like" is used in that
> sentence. It's not EVEN used in the manner that you are suggesting.
> Like, y'know?
>
> Dude, one thing I can say, I have never doubted that you were really
> trully an ex-cop. I know you ain't making THAT up.
Paul, Jerry has been posting here as long, if not longer, than you have and
I've never found him to be "dumb". Why do you resort to name-calling?
That's the LIBERAL attack plan. I though you were above that. Especially
when attacking someone who is on the RIGHT.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 18:16:46
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:38:52 -0800, "DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net >
wrote:
> Why do you resort to name-calling?
>That's the LIBERAL attack plan.
Yeah, leave the name-calling to the commie pinko libtard
America-hating morons.
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 14:58:02
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
>
> Paul, Jerry has been posting here as long, if not longer, than you have
> and I've never found him to be "dumb". Why do you resort to name-calling?
> That's the LIBERAL attack plan. I though you were above that. Especially
> when attacking someone who is on the RIGHT.
> --
Jerry on the Right? Ha ha ha. Ask him, Rick, where he stands on subjects
like the 2 million innocent babies being aborted in this country each year.
Ask him where he stands on the obvious liberal bias in our entertainment
industry, our news media, and our 'higher' learning institutions, biased
AGAINST Christians! Go ahead, Rick, ask him to elaborate on his views on
those two subjects and then come back here and tell me again how he is on
the Right. Let me assure you, Rick, if you, I, and Jerry are ever at a
republican fund raising dinner together, I would prefer that he remain on
the OTHER side of the ballroom.
-Paul
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Date: 09 Dec 2008 06:34:15
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
> Jerry on the Right? Ha ha ha. Ask him, Rick, where
> he stands on subjects like the 2 million innocent babies
> being aborted in this country each year.
A shot glass of blood and tissue is not called a baby. Look up zygote,
embryo and fetus. Then we’ll talk about “innocent, raped or enslaves women”
and their rights not to treated like hosts for a parasite.
> Ask him where he stands on the obvious liberal
> bias in our entertainment industry,
Liberal bias in the entertainment industry? You’ll have to explain that one.
They entertain, they don’t instruct the uneducated.
> our news media,
That’s been disproved years ago. Try to keep up. In fact, tune in to FOX and
Rush Limbaugh and report back in the morning.
> and our 'higher' learning institutions,
What does it tell you when the more educated people are liberal than, say, a
bunch of red-necked hicks bouncing around the back roads of the south in
their Stars & Bars pick’em up trucks? (You’re not a liberal, right?)
> biased AGAINST Christians!
I’m not biased against Christians in general; it’s the Christians trying to
force their superstitions on the good Americans.
Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 09 Dec 2008 07:01:30
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>> Jerry on the Right? Ha ha ha. Ask him, Rick, where
>> he stands on subjects like the 2 million innocent babies
>> being aborted in this country each year.
>
> A shot glass of blood and tissue is not called a baby. Look up zygote,
> embryo and fetus. Then we'll talk about "innocent, raped or enslaves
> women"
> and their rights not to treated like hosts for a parasite.
>
>
>> Ask him where he stands on the obvious liberal
>> bias in our entertainment industry,
>
> Liberal bias in the entertainment industry? You'll have to explain that
> one.
> They entertain, they don't instruct the uneducated.
>
>
>> our news media,
>
> That's been disproved years ago. Try to keep up. In fact, tune in to FOX
> and
> Rush Limbaugh and report back in the morning.
>
>
>> and our 'higher' learning institutions,
>
> What does it tell you when the more educated people are liberal than, say,
> a
> bunch of red-necked hicks bouncing around the back roads of the south in
> their Stars & Bars pick'em up trucks? (You're not a liberal, right?)
>
>
>> biased AGAINST Christians!
>
> I'm not biased against Christians in general; it's the Christians trying
> to
> force their superstitions on the good Americans.
>
>
> Jerry 'n Vegas
>
I REST my case! Rick, are you reading this shit? I know my customers.
Jerry is not only one of the least cerebral on this newsgroup but he is also
one of the most morally bankrupt. A total disgrace to God, country, and the
badge! He should in no way be considered part of the Right. We don't want
him. Into the fire with his intolerant ass!
-Paul
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 16:55:21
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:eMv%k.9108$x%.6306@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:Jlv%k.3565$Xt.2485@newsfe13.iad...
>>
>> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>>
>>> Jerry on the Right? Ha ha ha. Ask him, Rick, where
>>> he stands on subjects like the 2 million innocent babies
>>> being aborted in this country each year.
>>
>> A shot glass of blood and tissue is not called a baby. Look up zygote,
>> embryo and fetus. Then we'll talk about "innocent, raped or enslaves
>> women"
>> and their rights not to treated like hosts for a parasite.
>>
>>
>>> Ask him where he stands on the obvious liberal
>>> bias in our entertainment industry,
>>
>> Liberal bias in the entertainment industry? You'll have to explain that
>> one.
>> They entertain, they don't instruct the uneducated.
>>
>>
>>> our news media,
>>
>> That's been disproved years ago. Try to keep up. In fact, tune in to FOX
>> and
>> Rush Limbaugh and report back in the morning.
>>
>>
>>> and our 'higher' learning institutions,
>>
>> What does it tell you when the more educated people are liberal than,
>> say, a
>> bunch of red-necked hicks bouncing around the back roads of the south in
>> their Stars & Bars pick'em up trucks? (You're not a liberal, right?)
>>
>>
>>> biased AGAINST Christians!
>>
>> I'm not biased against Christians in general; it's the Christians trying
>> to
>> force their superstitions on the good Americans.
>>
>>
>> Jerry 'n Vegas
>>
>
> I REST my case! Rick, are you reading this shit? I know my customers.
> Jerry is not only one of the least cerebral on this newsgroup but he is
> also one of the most morally bankrupt. A total disgrace to God, country,
> and the badge! He should in no way be considered part of the Right. We
> don't want him. Into the fire with his intolerant ass!
>
> -Paul
I guess I really HAVEN'T caught up with all of Jerry's posts. While I
disagree with a lot of what he just posted, it doesn't mean we can't have
SOME agreement on other issues that have traditionally been "right", not
"left" issues. I can't say someone isn't on the Right just because they
don't agree with my religious and/or moral beliefs. The Republicans are
supposed to be the "big tent" party. Jerry? Are you trolling, or are these
your real beliefs? I remember when you didn't talk like this.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 06:45:23
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote
>> A shot glass of blood and tissue is not called a baby. Look
>> up zygote, embryo and fetus. Then we’ll talk about “innocent,
>> raped or enslaves women” and their rights not to treated
>> like hosts for a parasite.
>> I’m not biased against Christians in general; it’s the
>> Christians trying to force their superstitions on the
>> good Americans.
> Jerry? Are you trolling, or are these your real beliefs?
> I remember when you didn't talk like this.
I don’t troll. Yes, my real beliefs.
Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 08:54:10
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> I don't troll. Yes, my real beliefs.
>
See Rick? Jerry is a genuine phony.
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 12:01:20
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay"
> See Rick? Jerry is a genuine phony.
And that statement makes you an idiot.
Jerry ‘n Vegas
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 23:20:08
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Popinjay"
>
>> See Rick? Jerry is a genuine phony.
>
> And that statement makes you an idiot.
>
No, I was an idiot before that statement, Jerry. You fucking moron.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 21:59:19
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> I guess I really HAVEN'T caught up with all of Jerry's posts. While I
> disagree with a lot of what he just posted, it doesn't mean we can't have
> SOME agreement on other issues that have traditionally been "right", not
> "left" issues. I can't say someone isn't on the Right just because they
> don't agree with my religious and/or moral beliefs. The Republicans are
> supposed to be the "big tent" party. Jerry? Are you trolling, or are
> these your real beliefs? I remember when you didn't talk like this.
>
Hey Rick, forget Jerry for a moment. I want to say something about me. And
I'm being serious right now, even though you know that I am normally quite a
goof ball. But in real life, I really will not tolerate a fellow republican
who is ok with abortion. And I'm not on a religious soap box. And I deal
with a lot of people in business, and associate mostly with
republican-types. Naturally, I come across plenty of people who say they
are "fiscally conservative, but..." As soon as I hear someone use that
tired expression, I know they probably mean, "Balance the budget, but kill
the babies." And I lose all respect for someone like that, and I personally
don't care if the Republican Party falls apart because of that issue. In my
view, I don't want people who believe in abortion on my side. It is not
good enough to me that we restore fiscal sanity to our nation. In my view,
if we don't stop abortion, then we don't deserve to remain in God's graces.
And that's how I feel.
-Paul
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:17:59
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:9yZ%k.7003$qp2.6455@newsfe25.iad...
>
>>
>> I guess I really HAVEN'T caught up with all of Jerry's posts. While I
>> disagree with a lot of what he just posted, it doesn't mean we can't have
>> SOME agreement on other issues that have traditionally been "right", not
>> "left" issues. I can't say someone isn't on the Right just because they
>> don't agree with my religious and/or moral beliefs. The Republicans are
>> supposed to be the "big tent" party. Jerry? Are you trolling, or are
>> these your real beliefs? I remember when you didn't talk like this.
>>
>
> Hey Rick, forget Jerry for a moment. I want to say something about me.
> And
> I'm being serious right now, even though you know that I am normally quite
> a
> goof ball. But in real life, I really will not tolerate a fellow
> republican
> who is ok with abortion. And I'm not on a religious soap box. And I deal
> with a lot of people in business, and associate mostly with
> republican-types. Naturally, I come across plenty of people who say they
> are "fiscally conservative, but..." As soon as I hear someone use that
> tired expression, I know they probably mean, "Balance the budget, but kill
> the babies." And I lose all respect for someone like that, and I
> personally
> don't care if the Republican Party falls apart because of that issue. In
> my
> view, I don't want people who believe in abortion on my side. It is not
> good enough to me that we restore fiscal sanity to our nation. In my
> view,
> if we don't stop abortion, then we don't deserve to remain in God's
> graces.
> And that's how I feel.
>
> -Paul
What do you figure God will think about the richest countries in the world
doing next to nothing to help the 15,000,000 real living, breathing children
who die of starvation and malnutrition each year?
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:49:58
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
> What do you figure God will think about the richest countries in the world
> doing next to nothing to help the 15,000,000 real living, breathing
> children who die of starvation and malnutrition each year?
I don't know. I've never been to a country like that. The country I live
in grows so much food that no one starves. Of course, if the liberal
environmentalist whackos keep hammering away at our food industry, we may
see famine in the not so distant future. But presently, there's plenty of
food in the country where I live. No one starves, except actresses.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:10:18
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> I don't know. I've never been to a country like that. The country I live
> in grows so much food that no one starves. Of course, if the liberal
> environmentalist whackos keep hammering away at our food industry, we may
> see famine in the not so distant future. But presently, there's plenty of
> food in the country where I live. No one starves, except actresses.
Oh, so you think God is a nationalist. Help thy neighbour...unless he's on
the other side of that imaginary line? I'm pretty sure if there's a
judgmental, benevolent God he won't see it that way. I went to a Catholic
school. The Jesus they taught me about was nothing like that.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:22:20
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
I'm pretty sure if there's a
> judgmental, benevolent God he won't see it that way. I went to a Catholic
> school. The Jesus they taught me about was nothing like that.
>
I'm pretty sure there's going to be hell to pay for you socialist fucks who
perpetuate starvation and misery on this planet.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:34:52
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> I'm pretty sure there's going to be hell to pay for you socialist fucks
> who perpetuate starvation and misery on this planet.
$25 per capita per year, Paul. From the richest people in the world. Think
about it. I mean, *really* think about it.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:54:49
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:%f30l.9665$yr3.1131@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>> I'm pretty sure there's going to be hell to pay for you socialist fucks
>> who perpetuate starvation and misery on this planet.
>
> $25 per capita per year, Paul. From the richest people in the world. Think
> about it. I mean, *really* think about it.
>
That's $25 more than I gave anyone this year. And you want ME to think
about it?
The only reason starvation even exists anywhere on this planet is because of
socialists like YOU, Bill. I'm thinking about THAT!
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 01:38:42
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
news:sg20l.2349$%z5.1081@newsfe09.iad...
>
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:j120l.9658$yr3.3563@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> "DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:9yZ%k.7003$qp2.6455@newsfe25.iad...
>>
>>>
>>> I guess I really HAVEN'T caught up with all of Jerry's posts. While I
>>> disagree with a lot of what he just posted, it doesn't mean we can't
>>> have
>>> SOME agreement on other issues that have traditionally been "right", not
>>> "left" issues. I can't say someone isn't on the Right just because they
>>> don't agree with my religious and/or moral beliefs. The Republicans are
>>> supposed to be the "big tent" party. Jerry? Are you trolling, or are
>>> these your real beliefs? I remember when you didn't talk like this.
>>>
>>
>> Hey Rick, forget Jerry for a moment. I want to say something about me.
>> And
>> I'm being serious right now, even though you know that I am normally
>> quite a
>> goof ball. But in real life, I really will not tolerate a fellow
>> republican
>> who is ok with abortion. And I'm not on a religious soap box. And I
>> deal
>> with a lot of people in business, and associate mostly with
>> republican-types. Naturally, I come across plenty of people who say they
>> are "fiscally conservative, but..." As soon as I hear someone use that
>> tired expression, I know they probably mean, "Balance the budget, but
>> kill
>> the babies." And I lose all respect for someone like that, and I
>> personally
>> don't care if the Republican Party falls apart because of that issue. In
>> my
>> view, I don't want people who believe in abortion on my side. It is not
>> good enough to me that we restore fiscal sanity to our nation. In my
>> view,
>> if we don't stop abortion, then we don't deserve to remain in God's
>> graces.
>> And that's how I feel.
>>
>> -Paul
>
> What do you figure God will think about the richest countries in the world
> doing next to nothing to help the 15,000,000 real living, breathing
> children who die of starvation and malnutrition each year?
American donates more money to help developing countries and hungry children
than any other country in the history of this planet. But I agree that more
could be done. How about taking the $300M a year in American tax payer
money that goes to support the Planned Parenthood abortion mills and giving
that to starving children.
Irish Mike
>
>
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:53:00
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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<... >
> How about taking the $300M a year in American tax payer money that goes to
> support the Planned Parenthood abortion mills and giving that to starving
> children.
How about doing the same with the BILLIONS PER YEAR in American taxpayer
money that's going toward all the graft, corruption and waste involved in
killing all those Iraqis and giving THAT to the world's starving children.
My guess is that your outrage is selective that way.
Jim
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:47:32
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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> American donates more money to help developing countries and hungry
> children than any other country in the history of this planet.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_percap-economic-aid-donor-per-capita
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:40:26
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
news:9I20l.2352$%z5.1003@newsfe09.iad...
>
> "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:3A20l.13730$Ws1.13076@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>> American donates more money to help developing countries and hungry
>> children than any other country in the history of this planet.
>
>
> Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night
> http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_percap-economic-aid-donor-per-capita
My reply:
Luxembourg? From
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/lu.html
Luxemboug #1 Population:486,006 (July 2008 est.) so, 486,006 x $519.75
(2004 donations)
= $252,601,618.50
U.S. #19 Population:303,824,640 (July 2008 est.) so, 303,824,640 x 25.31
(1997 donations) =$7,647,266,188.80 Also, Luxemboug is a MUCH RICHER per
capita Country than the U.S.
Let's subtract from what the US gave in '97 (from BillB's chart) 7,657,266,
188.80
The total that Luxemboug gave in '04 (from BillB's Chart)
252,601,618.50
That's a GIVING DEFECIT OF $7,404,664,570.3 We only gave a MERE 7.5
BILLION more. Oh, but wait, we MUST be richer (per capita) , right?
Luxembourg
GDP - per capita (PPP):$79,400 (2007 est.)
GDP - real growth rate:4.5% (2007 est.)
Unemployment rate: 4.4% (2007 est.)
Population below poverty line: NA%
U.S.GDP - per capita (PPP):$45,800 (2007 est.)
GDP - real growth rate: 2% (2007 est.)
Unemployment rate: 4.6% (2007 est.)
Population below poverty line:12% (2004 est.)
Wow, I guess we're NOT richer per capita than those damned Luxbourgers!!!
Maybe we should stop Foreign Aid altogether and get that 12% of our citizens
ABOVE the poverty line?!
Can we compare Apples to apples here? You pull up one MEANINGLESS statistic
and base an entire thesis on it. "Luxemboug gives away more money than we
do". No, they don't. They give more per capita, they're also one of the
richest countries per capita in the World, they have 0% of their people
living below the poverty line, a higher GDP growth rate than we do, and just
about the same unemployment rate, yet WE give a mere 7.5 Billion more in
aid that was a '97 figure. We give a lot more than that NOW.
Fucking strawmen arguments REALLY piss me off. Do so research, some REAL
research before pulling up ONE stupid webpage that shows we're 19th in (per
capita) giving. That may have been the most disingenous p.o.s. post you've
ever made here Bill.
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Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:52:26
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> My reply:
>
> Luxembourg? From
> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/lu.html
>
> Luxemboug #1 Population:486,006 (July 2008 est.) so, 486,006 x $519.75
> (2004 donations)
> = $252,601,618.50
>
> U.S. #19 Population:303,824,640 (July 2008 est.) so, 303,824,640 x 25.31
> (1997 donations) =$7,647,266,188.80 Also, Luxemboug is a MUCH RICHER per
> capita Country than the U.S.
>
> Let's subtract from what the US gave in '97 (from BillB's chart)
> 7,657,266, 188.80
> The total that Luxemboug gave in '04 (from BillB's Chart) 252,601,618.50
>
> That's a GIVING DEFECIT OF $7,404,664,570.3 We only gave a MERE 7.5
> BILLION more. Oh, but wait, we MUST be richer (per capita) , right?
>
> Luxembourg
> GDP - per capita (PPP):$79,400 (2007 est.)
> GDP - real growth rate:4.5% (2007 est.)
> Unemployment rate: 4.4% (2007 est.)
> Population below poverty line: NA%
>
> U.S.GDP - per capita (PPP):$45,800 (2007 est.)
> GDP - real growth rate: 2% (2007 est.)
> Unemployment rate: 4.6% (2007 est.)
> Population below poverty line:12% (2004 est.)
>
> Wow, I guess we're NOT richer per capita than those damned Luxbourgers!!!
> Maybe we should stop Foreign Aid altogether and get that 12% of our
> citizens ABOVE the poverty line?!
>
> Can we compare Apples to apples here? You pull up one MEANINGLESS
> statistic and base an entire thesis on it. "Luxemboug gives away more
> money than we do". No, they don't. They give more per capita, they're
> also one of the richest countries per capita in the World, they have 0% of
> their people living below the poverty line, a higher GDP growth rate than
> we do, and just about the same unemployment rate, yet WE give a mere 7.5
> Billion more in aid that was a '97 figure. We give a lot more than that
> NOW.
>
> Fucking strawmen arguments REALLY piss me off. Do so research, some REAL
> research before pulling up ONE stupid webpage that shows we're 19th in
> (per capita) giving. That may have been the most disingenous p.o.s. post
> you've ever made here Bill.
uhhhh Rick...per capita is the only meaningful way to measure generosity.
It's what the average person gives. The average Dane sacrifices $395 per
year (through government aid) even though they are nopt as wealthy. The
average American....$25 There is nothing "strawman" about it. Measuring
in absolute dollars without regard to population size or GDP (as you are
suggesting) is pure sophistry. Are you seriously suggesting that the US
giving away 0.8% of its GDP is "more generous" than a hypothetical small
country giving away 10% of its GDP? Come on Rick. You are smarter than that.
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 00:17:11
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote
> uhhhh Rick...per capita is the only meaningful way to measure generosity.
> It's what the average person gives. The average Dane sacrifices $395 per
> year (through government aid) even though they are nopt as wealthy. The
> average American....$25 There is nothing "strawman" about it.
> Measuring in absolute dollars without regard to population size or GDP (as
> you are suggesting) is pure sophistry. Are you seriously suggesting that
> the US giving away 0.8% of its GDP is "more generous" than a hypothetical
> small country giving away 10% of its GDP? Come on Rick. You are smarter
> than that.
When that country has ZERO PERCENT of their people living below the poverty
line and an average income nearly DOUBLE what it is here? Besides, the
figures you showed for the U.S. were from 1994. That's 14 years ago! How
many BILLIONS more have we added in spending in Africa JUST on HIV/AIDS
relief, treatment and prevention since then? Probably another 7 Billion or
more. I don't remember the exact $ amount, but it was staggering to hear
that we were sending it to tin pot dictators and expecting it to actually go
where it was intended.
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Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 01:16:16
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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> When that country has ZERO PERCENT of their people living below the
> poverty line and an average income nearly DOUBLE what it is here?
The excess percentage of people living in poverty in the US is largely a
policy choice. Obama wanted to raise the taxes of wealthy Americans a couple
of percent and was branded a Marxist by half the country. Imagine how bad it
would be if there was NO wealth redistribution, as many of the wingnuts
claim they would like to see.
I agree that countries with higher per capita incomes should give more.
According to that chart, Luxembourg's GDP is less than 2x bigger per capita
, yet they give 20x as much per capita. You wouldn't call that more
generous? I certainly would. According to that chart, Denmark's per capita
GDP is *less* than the US', yet they give more than 10x as much per capita.
Can any reasonable person claim they are not more generous?
>Besides, the figures you showed for the U.S. were from 1994. That's 14
>years ago!
Yes, the figures are a bit dated. It was the first result I googled. If you
dig a little deeper you will find more recent figures that show things
really haven't changed much as a % of GDP.
> How many BILLIONS more have we added in spending in Africa JUST on
> HIV/AIDS relief, treatment and prevention since then? Probably another 7
> Billion or more. I don't remember the exact $ amount, but it was
> staggering to hear that we were sending it to tin pot dictators and
> expecting it to actually go where it was intended.
George Bush deserves a lot of credit for devoting more resources to AIDS
relief. I only hope it is being done in a more effective way than his other
policy objectives.
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 00:10:42
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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> uhhhh Rick...per capita is the only meaningful way to measure generosity.
> It's what the average person gives. The average Dane sacrifices $395 per
> year (through government aid) even though they are nopt as wealthy. The
> average American....$25 There is nothing "strawman" about it.
> Measuring in absolute dollars without regard to population size or GDP (as
> you are suggesting) is pure sophistry. Are you seriously suggesting that
> the US giving away 0.8% of its GDP is "more generous" than a hypothetical
> small country giving away 10% of its GDP? Come on Rick. You are smarter
> than that.
By the way, I am not singling out the US (although the US is perhaps the
best example). You'll notice I originally said "wealthy countries". Mike
made it about the US by claiming God-like generosity. Canada does a little
better better per capita but is still *pathetic*. The truth is our
ultra-wealthy North American society is the greediest in the history of the
world. Do you believe in karma? Every year our houses and cars get bigger
while more and more people starve to death, and we don't seen to give a
shit. We spend more on lattes than we do on saving starving children. So
until people start lobbying our governments to give more - A LOT MORE - to
save the 15,000,000 children who will die a slow painful death from
malnutrition in 2009, I don't want them preaching to me about saving
zygotes. To me they just sound like phony fucks.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 22:57:30
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
> "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:3A20l.13730$Ws1.13076@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>> American donates more money to help developing countries and hungry
>> children than any other country in the history of this planet.
>
>
> Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night
> http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_percap-economic-aid-donor-per-capita
>
Bill, why not link to the "$ per GDP" tab, and be even more disingenuous?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_pergdp-economic-aid-donor-per-gdp
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:05:30
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> Bill, why not link to the "$ per GDP" tab, and be even more disingenuous?
>
> http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_pergdp-economic-aid-donor-per-gdp
uhhhh....how is dollars per GDP or dollars per capita "disingenuous". The
average American makes 40k a year and gives $25 woohooo!!! Talk about
generous!
Seriously Paul, you believe in God. What do you think He makes of that?
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 01:27:24
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
> uhhhh....how is dollars per GDP or dollars per capita "disingenuous".
> The average American makes 40k a year and gives $25 woohooo!!! Talk
> about generous!
>
> Seriously Paul, you believe in God. What do you think He makes of that?
Bill, Bill, Bill, there you go again. The avg American only gives $25/year?
We were talking about FOREIGN AID GIVEN BY GOVERNMENTS. Not the amount the
avg American gives per year to Charities, Churches/synagogues/mosques,
political parties, School fundraisers, Girl Scout cookies...shall I go on?
We're probably the MOST GIVING Nation on the face of the planet. AND you're
still working with a figure of $25/person that was in 1994. That was
FOURTEEN YEARS AGO.
Why don't you just get another email...here's a suggestion
disingenuous.strawman.arguments@gmail.com unless it's already taken.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 06:43:30
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> "BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
>
>> uhhhh....how is dollars per GDP or dollars per capita "disingenuous".
>> The average American makes 40k a year and gives $25 woohooo!!! Talk
>> about generous!
>>
>> Seriously Paul, you believe in God. What do you think He makes of that?
>
> Bill, Bill, Bill, there you go again. The avg American only gives
> $25/year? We were talking about FOREIGN AID GIVEN BY GOVERNMENTS. Not the
> amount the avg American gives per year to Charities,
> Churches/synagogues/mosques, political parties, School fundraisers, Girl
> Scout cookies...shall I go on? We're probably the MOST GIVING Nation on
> the face of the planet. AND you're still working with a figure of
> $25/person that was in 1994. That was FOURTEEN YEARS AGO.
>
> Why don't you just get another email...here's a suggestion
> disingenuous.strawman.arguments@gmail.com unless it's already taken.
>
> --
> Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
Now don't spoil Bill's fun with facts. Bill is never happier than when he's
trashing America.
Irish Mike
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 05:13:39
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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> Now don't spoil Bill's fun with facts. Bill is never happier than when
> he's trashing America.
No, Mike..these are the facts:
Official Development Assistance as a percentage of Gross National Income
using the OECD's 2007
figures:
http://www.deza.admin.ch/pictures/UeberDEZA/oda2007.jpg
You were middle management for a Fortune 500 company. You should be able to
read a bar graph. Tell me what you think it means.
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 07:33:04
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB"
>> Now don't spoil Bill's fun with facts. Bill is never happier than when
>> he's trashing America.
>
> No, Mike..these are the facts:
>
> Official Development Assistance as a percentage of Gross National Income
> using the OECD's 2007
> figures:
>
> http://www.deza.admin.ch/pictures/UeberDEZA/oda2007.jpg
>
> You were middle management for a Fortune 500 company. You should be able
> to read a bar graph. Tell me what you think it means.
If it does not go through ODA, it is not giving! No American individual,
corporation or foundation does a damn thing for the rest of the world. We
are selfish bastards.
"Official development assistance has been criticized by several economists
for being an inappropriate way of really helping poor countries. The
Hungarian economist Peter Thomas Bauer has been one of the most vocal of
them."
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 01:39:00
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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> Bill, Bill, Bill, there you go again. The avg American only gives
> $25/year? We were talking about FOREIGN AID GIVEN BY GOVERNMENTS.
Not the amount the
> avg American gives per year to Charities, Churches/synagogues/mosques,
> political parties, School fundraisers, Girl Scout cookies...shall I go on?
> We're probably the MOST GIVING Nation on the face of the planet. AND
> you're still working with a figure of $25/person that was in 1994. That
> was FOURTEEN YEARS AGO.
> Why don't you just get another email...here's a suggestion
> disingenuous.strawman.arguments@gmail.com unless it's already taken.
Yes, that is what we are talking about. Governments. Foreign aid per capita
to developing countries. That means *per person* on average. $25 per person
in 1997. Yes, the figure was from 1997, not 1994. I assure you the
percentage as a function of GDP has changed little, if any, since then. We
were never talking about giving to the Girl Scouts, political parties, or
school fundraisers. Who's using strawman arguments, me or you???
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 02:17:30
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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> Yes, that is what we are talking about. Governments. Foreign aid per
> capita to developing countries. That means *per person* on average. $25
> per person in 1997. Yes, the figure was from 1997, not 1994. I assure you
> the percentage as a function of GDP has changed little, if any, since
> then. We were never talking about giving to the Girl Scouts, political
> parties, or school fundraisers. Who's using strawman arguments, me or
> you???
OK, you wanted more recent figures. Here you go. Official Development
Assistance as a percentage of Gross National Income using the OECD's 2007
figures:
http://www.deza.admin.ch/pictures/UeberDEZA/oda2007.jpg
Does this really change anything?
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 02:01:53
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
> "DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:b250l.16673$ED.14849@newsfe22.iad...
>
>
>> Bill, Bill, Bill, there you go again. The avg American only gives
>> $25/year? We were talking about FOREIGN AID GIVEN BY GOVERNMENTS.
>
> Not the amount the
>> avg American gives per year to Charities, Churches/synagogues/mosques,
>> political parties, School fundraisers, Girl Scout cookies...shall I go
>> on? We're probably the MOST GIVING Nation on the face of the planet. AND
>> you're still working with a figure of $25/person that was in 1994. That
>> was FOURTEEN YEARS AGO.
>
>> Why don't you just get another email...here's a suggestion
>> disingenuous.strawman.arguments@gmail.com unless it's already taken.
>
>
>
> Yes, that is what we are talking about. Governments. Foreign aid per
> capita to developing countries. That means *per person* on average. $25
> per person in 1997. Yes, the figure was from 1997, not 1994. I assure you
> the percentage as a function of GDP has changed little, if any, since
> then. We were never talking about giving to the Girl Scouts, political
> parties, or school fundraisers. Who's using strawman arguments, me or
> you???
How convenient of you to leave out the statement and question you asked Paul
that illicited my reply.
YOU SAID:
"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
> uhhhh....how is dollars per GDP or dollars per capita "disingenuous". The
> average American makes 40k a year and gives $25 woohooo!!! Talk about
> generous!
>
> Seriously Paul, you believe in God. What do you think He makes of that?
I was replying to THAT statement and question, in which you made it sound
like we were NOT a generous Nation. As a people I would venture to guess
that we are among the MOST giving of all. But I can't find a website that
will dilineate charitable contributions per capita, by GDP to back it up, so
it will mean nothing to you.
I think GOD thinks we're not doing enough, but I don't think, as humans, we
can ever live up to God's true Standards. All we can do is try. Tell me
that you're last question of Paul was not a "cheap shot" at his
Christianity. C'mon, tell me, then we'll ALL know you're just full of it.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 11 Dec 2008 02:33:20
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"DaVoice" <davoicergp@cox.net > wrote in message
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>> uhhhh....how is dollars per GDP or dollars per capita "disingenuous".
>> The average American makes 40k a year and gives $25 woohooo!!! Talk
>> about generous!
>>
>> Seriously Paul, you believe in God. What do you think He makes of that?
>
> I was replying to THAT statement and question, in which you made it sound
> like we were NOT a generous Nation.
The context was clearly generosity to developing countries. That's what we
have been discussing. No, the US is not generous in that regard. Nor is
Canada. In fact, both are downright stingy. I have no idea how generous you
are with the Girl Scouts or school fundraisers, but that has nothing to do
with what we were talking about.
> I think GOD thinks we're not doing enough, but I don't think, as humans,
> we can ever live up to God's true Standards. All we can do is try. Tell
> me that you're last question of Paul was not a "cheap shot" at his
> Christianity. C'mon, tell me, then we'll ALL know you're just full of it.
I don't see how it's a "cheap shot". Paul pondered what God would think
about us allowing abortion to continue unabated. I asked him to also ponder
what God would think about us letting umpteen millions of real live children
starve to death without giving it a second thought. As you can see by Paul's
responses to me, he really does not give it a second thought. He is clearly
vastly more concerned about American zygotes than sub-Saharan children. I am
not an athiest. I am agnostic. If there is a God remotely like the Christian
version, I think he will be royally *pissed off*. AFAIK Jesus never asked
lepers what nationality they were before he healed them.
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Date: 10 Dec 2008 23:25:21
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
>
> uhhhh....how is dollars per GDP or dollars per capita "disingenuous".
> The average American makes 40k a year and gives $25 woohooo!!! Talk
> about generous!
>
> Seriously Paul, you believe in God. What do you think He makes of that?
Just be glad that I am not God, numb nuts. He's a lot more patient with
people like you than I would be. Count your blessings, lucky.
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 06:12:13
From: Jerry Sturdivant
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote
> Hey Jerry, seriously, you've got to be one of the
> dumbest people to ever post on this newsgroup.
So instead of admitting your failure and apologizing like you demanded of
others, you’re still attacking others.
> Dude, one thing I can say ….
“Like,” and “Dude?” It’s obvious you’ll not apologize for your obviously
wrong and slanderous accusations. Really, you should find a discussion group
giving more to your adolescent proclivities.
Jerry (laughing at the Dudes) ‘n Vegas
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 08:02:49
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>
>
>> Hey Jerry, seriously, you've got to be one of the
>> dumbest people to ever post on this newsgroup.
>
> So instead of admitting your failure and apologizing like you demanded of
> others, you're still attacking others.
>
>
>> Dude, one thing I can say ..
>
> "Like," and "Dude?"
Whoosh, Einstein! Holy shit, they let you carry a gun?
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 11:39:37
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Jerry Sturdivant" <jerryst@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:c6R_k.11315$ED.8680@newsfe22.iad...
>>
>
>>
>> He won't have to, I've just answered in the negative.
>>
>
> Now wait just a minute, Jerry. It is one thing for you to deny ever doing
> these things yourself. But it is entirely different if you are going to
> expect us to believe that your other buddies on the force never did that
> kinda shit. Are you saying that you did not know any other cops who
> planted
> guns or doctored evidence? How long were you on the force? Ten minutes?
> Ha! I am laughing my ass off as I am sure everyone else is who is reading
> this. That is the most flagrant made-up bullshit I have ever seen on this
> newsgroup. This is actually pretty funny because it is so feeble. I am
> talking about police corruption, a very serious subject, and like children
> you and Ambi are trying to twist this conversation around to talking about
> my reading comprehension. Why are you trying to shift the focus of the
> reader? Do you have something to hide? And who is this guy Ambi? Is he
> one of your cop buddies? One of the guys you used to beat up vagrants
> with?
> By the way, Ambi is a dumb name. I never met an Ambi before. That's just
> weird.
>
> -Paul Popinjay
A couple of years ago we got over 300 lbs. of marijuana suppressed in a
traffic stop case before one of the most hard-assed judges in the country
(in fact, this particular judge had never, up to that time as far as we
know, granted a suppression motion that would have terminated the case as
this one would).
The affidavit of the trooper was about one paragraph long and stated that he
asked our client for consent to search her car and that she replied, "Go
ahead."
When we requested a copy of the dash-mounted videotape which had audio, it
showed that they were in his patrol car and he asked her if he could search.
She said, "You can do that?" in a voice that sounded like she was skeptical.
He said, "yeah" and started opening his door. He asked her again in a more
stern voice as he was leaving the car and she says again, more emphatically,
"You can *do* that?" He again says yes and then the video shows them in
front of the car and he asks her a third time as he is walking to the car
and she makes no audible response and is shown shaking her head no and
shrugging her shoulders in an I-don't-know-what-to-do action. He goes ahead
and searches.
At the preliminary hearing it was obvious that neither he nor the prosecutor
had viewed the tape. After we played it, he saw that he was trapped and
actually testified that she said, "go ahead" at the only point in the entire
tape where the sound went out for about 5 seconds bacause of wind noise
(after the third time he asked and when they were outside) and the tape
shows that the client's mouth was not moving.
That sort of thing is not as uncommon as you might think. NO KIDDING: I
heard a rumor that this officer was trying to get into law school.
Do some Google searches on Oklahoma City P.D. chemist Joyce Gilchrist. DA
Bob Macy tolerated her lies and deceit for years.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 10:12:09
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"James L. Hankins" <jhankins5@cox.net > wrote in message
news:uTT_k.2140$Xt.1140@newsfe13.iad...
>
>
> That sort of thing is not as uncommon as you might think. NO KIDDING: I
> heard a rumor that this officer was trying to get into law school.
>
Let me be serious for a moment. (yes, really) What chance to you give that
the police regulary follow the rules when in their every day activity in
such areas as South Central Los Angeles or other black/ghetto areas? Does
anyone think that the cops don't violate procedure every DAY as a matter of
regular policy? When the news cameras are nowhere around, and there are no
slick ACLU lawyers within earshot, what do you think every day life is like
in Watts and Compton?
To be fair, the cops are trying to do their job in a literal war zone. And
I personally think anyone has to be crazy to want to be a cop in an area
like Compton. But they plant evidence and make up stories and do
practically whatever the fuck they want to do, when working in the ghetto.
That's one reason why I don't think the Exclusionary Rule is practical. It
just sorta forces cops to make shit up anyway. And they're going to do what
they want. If they want to search you, you're going to get searched.
There is really only one bit of practical advice I have for would-be
criminals. First off, if you live in a bad area, save some money and move
the fuck out. And second, stop doing crime and get a real job you social
miscreant assholes.
-PP
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 12:12:25
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"James L. Hankins"
> That sort of thing is not as uncommon as you might think. NO KIDDING: I
> heard a rumor that this officer was trying to get into law school.
It would be terrible if a dishonest person might become a lawyer.
It is also interesting to see that many people still think that "judges"
judge.
And how about those politicians that just want to do the right thing for the
people.
If the big three auto companies are a bunch of scumbags that cannot get
anything correct, we will surely do better with the guys the legislature
puts in charge.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 11:33:50
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:4cjq06xq1r.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 6 2008 12:04 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> The judge in the case stated that the sentence she handed down had
>> nothing
>> to do with Simpson's previous trials. I am waiting for the day you
>> develop
>> reading comprehension skills beyond a fourth grade level.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>
>
> There must be comparables out there. I wonder what the average sentence is
> for a first time offender commiting a similar crime in Nevada?
> Plus i like the way they turn one crime into about 10 crimes ....count
> 1 armed robbery... count 2 armed robbery telling the victims to stay put
> (kidnapping...thats a stretch) count 3 armed robbery by a
> lefthander.....count 4 kidnapping while humming singing in the rain...
I *think* I heard one of the news people say that Nevada has a mandatory
prison sentence of around ten years so the judge really didn't much
discretion to impose a lighter sentence. However, she could have given him
life in prison. I saw an interview with Simpson's lawyers last night and
they said they thought the sentence was appropriate and that they had
actually prepared Simpson for a much harsher sentence. Of course they'll
appeal and try to play the race card but I doubt it will fly. This is
Nevada, not central L.A.
Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 10:42:01
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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> I *think* I heard one of the news people say that Nevada has a mandatory
> prison sentence of around ten years so the judge really didn't much
> discretion to impose a lighter sentence.
The judge knows that, if he behaves, as an older first offender he'll be
doing the minimum of the range. She could have given him 6 minimum but
instead she gave him 9 minimum. That's 50% more time, the very most she
could have given him on these facts without being accused of being blatantly
biased. Then I see Yale Galanter on Larry King telling the world what a good
result he got for his client and how fair the judge was. Good thinking Yale!
He's certainly no Johnnie Cochran.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:15:04
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
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>
> The judge in the case stated that the sentence she handed down had nothing
> to do with Simpson's previous trials.
And what's she supposed to say?
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 13:15:27
From: Susan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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he should go back into acting - boo fuckin' hoo
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 03:41:30
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:15:27 -0600, "Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net >
wrote:
>he should go back into acting - boo fuckin' hoo
He's been acting for the past 13 years.
>
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 14:19:38
From: Mr Bungle 34
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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While I won't be shedding any tears for OJ, I think what happened
today is as fucked up as his acquittal was 13 years ago. In sports
terminology, it was the biggest make up call ever. Anyone with any
sense at all knows he was guilty of the murders. He even wrote a book
that reads as a confession.
In THIS case however, no one was harmed and it seems there is a high
probability that no one was even truly threatened. The "victims" were
just as shady as the assailants and I do believe at least some of the
stuff was stolen from OJ. In most cases, someone could detain a thief
at gunpoint and be deemed a hero.
Even if the charges were true, I don't even understand how a term as
long as he got can be handed down for the accused crimes in this case.
Rapists, child molesters, and well... actually almost any other
criminal without a long previous record commonly receive much shorter
sentences. The whole thing just seems like such a setup. He was
convicted on the same day he beat the murder charges 13 years ago. A
364-1 shot? Really? That just happened to happen? They have a lottery
to determine who gets seats to watch the sentencing and the Goldman's
=93luckily=94 win some prime seats for the thing?
I don't know, call me crazy, but this just doesn't seem "right". I'm
not saying its not just in the court of karma, but in the court
law...I'm not so sure. Our justice system is supposed to be so
precious, when we apply it, we should be sure that our motives aren't
based on anything other than what actually happened. No one can say
with a straight face that todays verdict didn't have anything to do
with the murders, that would be as silly as the people who claim he
was =93not guilty=94 for the murders.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 14:29:52
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Mr Bungle 34" <michael_grove34@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:14abb4b5-2c5e-4a9f-9a10-203a61bb074a@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
While I won't be shedding any tears for OJ, I think what happened
today is as fucked up as his acquittal was 13 years ago. In sports
terminology, it was the biggest make up call ever. Anyone with any
sense at all knows he was guilty of the murders. He even wrote a book
that reads as a confession.
In THIS case however, no one was harmed and it seems there is a high
probability that no one was even truly threatened. The "victims" were
just as shady as the assailants and I do believe at least some of the
stuff was stolen from OJ. In most cases, someone could detain a thief
at gunpoint and be deemed a hero.
Even if the charges were true, I don't even understand how a term as
long as he got can be handed down for the accused crimes in this case.
Rapists, child molesters, and well... actually almost any other
criminal without a long previous record commonly receive much shorter
sentences. The whole thing just seems like such a setup. He was
convicted on the same day he beat the murder charges 13 years ago. A
364-1 shot? Really? That just happened to happen? They have a lottery
to determine who gets seats to watch the sentencing and the Goldman's
“luckily” win some prime seats for the thing?
I don't know, call me crazy, but this just doesn't seem "right". I'm
not saying its not just in the court of karma, but in the court
law...I'm not so sure. Our justice system is supposed to be so
precious, when we apply it, we should be sure that our motives aren't
based on anything other than what actually happened. No one can say
with a straight face that todays verdict didn't have anything to do
with the murders, that would be as silly as the people who claim he
was “not guilty” for the murders.
I don't think the Prosecution in L.A. proved his guilt "Beyond a reasonable
doubt", but you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about the "Makeup Call". No one not
named O.J. Simpson, or associated with him (as poor Stewart was) would ever
have been So OVERCHARGED, over-convicted, and Over-Sentenced. The
punishments do NOT fit the crimes.
Rick "ADB DaVoice:" Chales
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 20:18:53
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Mr Bungle 34" <michael_grove34@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:14abb4b5-2c5e-4a9f-9a10-203a61bb074a@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
"While I won't be shedding any tears for OJ, I think what happened
today is as fucked up as his acquittal was 13 years ago. In sports
terminology, it was the biggest make up call ever. Anyone with any
sense at all knows he was guilty of the murders. He even wrote a book
that reads as a confession.
In THIS case however, no one was harmed and it seems there is a high
probability that no one was even truly threatened. The "victims" were
just as shady as the assailants and I do believe at least some of the
stuff was stolen from OJ. In most cases, someone could detain a thief
at gunpoint and be deemed a hero.
Even if the charges were true, I don't even understand how a term as
long as he got can be handed down for the accused crimes in this case.
Rapists, child molesters, and well... actually almost any other
criminal without a long previous record commonly receive much shorter
sentences. The whole thing just seems like such a setup. He was
convicted on the same day he beat the murder charges 13 years ago. A
364-1 shot? Really? That just happened to happen? They have a lottery
to determine who gets seats to watch the sentencing and the Goldman's
“luckily” win some prime seats for the thing?
I don't know, call me crazy, but this just doesn't seem "right". I'm
not saying its not just in the court of karma, but in the court
law...I'm not so sure. Our justice system is supposed to be so
precious, when we apply it, we should be sure that our motives aren't
based on anything other than what actually happened. No one can say
with a straight face that todays verdict didn't have anything to do
with the murders, that would be as silly as the people who claim he
was “not guilty” for the murders."
Well I don't share your outrage over O.J. Simpson's sentence. Fuck the
murdering ass wipe. He's only got to serve 9 years before he's eligible for
parole. Hell, his own defense team said they thought the verdict was fair:
"LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was sentenced
Friday to at least 15 years in prison for his role in an armed confrontation
with sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas hotel in 2007.
O.J. Simpson told the judge Friday that he was sorry for what he did but
didn't think it was wrong. He must serve at least nine years before he can
be considered for parole. Grimacing, Simpson was escorted from the courtroom
in shackles. The sentence was imposed after Simpson, his voice shaking,
told Judge Jackie Glass that he was sorry for his actions but believed that
he did nothing wrong. Glass brushed his apology aside.
"Earlier in this case, at a bail hearing, I said to Mr. Simpson, I didn't
know if he was arrogant, ignorant or both," Glass said. "During the trial
and through this proceeding, I got the answer, and it was both."
She stressed that the sentence was not "payback for anything else,"
apparently referring to Simpson's acquittal 13 years ago in the slayings of
his former wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ron Goldman. Defense
attorneys said Glass' sentence was appropriate. "It could have been a lot
worse," Yale Galanter said, noting that Simpson and co-defendant Clarence
"C.J." Stewart both could have been sentenced to life in prison. Instead,
the maximum time Simpson can spend behind bars is 33 years."
For all the knee jerk, politically correct, bleeding heart liberals out
there, I don't give a shit that Simpson is black. Any one who murders two
people in cold blood, whether they're black, white or pin-striped should go
to prison. Simpson literally got away with murder - twice. He was found
guilty in a civil court and ordered to pay $30+ million to the Brown and
Goldman families. Simpson thumbed his nose at the court and didn't pay jack
shit. Plus the court ruled that Simpon got to keep his $500,000.00 a year
retirement pension.
Now most people who get away with murdering two people and have half a
million a year, for life, to live on would thank their lucky stars. But not
an arrogant asshole like Simpson. He goes out and pulls a bone-headed armed
robbery in Las Vegas. I don't give a shit if the guys he robbed were scum
bags just like him, he still committed an armed robbery. So fuck O.J
Simpson - I hope his parole is denied and the miserable bastard dies in
prison. If you want to feel sorry for some one, save it for the two people
he murdered.
Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 03:17:59
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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> For all the knee jerk, politically correct, bleeding heart liberals out
> there
There are a lot of liberals that have no problem with the sentence. I'm
one of them.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 07:30:09
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Lynx" <a16a9@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:7k3q06x0pp.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> There are a lot of liberals that have no problem with the sentence. I'm
> one of them.
>
But see, Lynx? That's because not only are you a liberal, but you are one
of the new liberal fascists. And you thrive on the mob mentality. You
don't know OJ personally, but you cheer for him to suffer because the mob
cheers for him to suffer. You would have made a good Roman spectator when
they were fighting gladiators to the death. "Kill him! Kill him!", you
would have cheered. You're blood-thirsty, Lynx. You frighten me.
-PP
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 16:23:36
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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> > There are a lot of liberals that have no problem with the sentence. I'm
> > one of them.
> >
>
> But see, Lynx? That's because not only are you a liberal, but you are one
> of the new liberal fascists. And you thrive on the mob mentality. You
> don't know OJ personally, but you cheer for him to suffer because the mob
> cheers for him to suffer. You would have made a good Roman spectator when
> they were fighting gladiators to the death. "Kill him! Kill him!", you
> would have cheered. You're blood-thirsty, Lynx. You frighten me.
I find your assessment completely off. However, the fact that we've
posted as we have should challenge Mike's assessment that it is
specifically liberals that have problems with OJ's sentence.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 20:43:55
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Lynx" <a16a9@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:8lhr06xabv.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > There are a lot of liberals that have no problem with the sentence.
>> > I'm
>> > one of them.
>> >
>>
>> But see, Lynx? That's because not only are you a liberal, but you are
>> one
>> of the new liberal fascists. And you thrive on the mob mentality. You
>> don't know OJ personally, but you cheer for him to suffer because the mob
>> cheers for him to suffer. You would have made a good Roman spectator
>> when
>> they were fighting gladiators to the death. "Kill him! Kill him!", you
>> would have cheered. You're blood-thirsty, Lynx. You frighten me.
>
> I find your assessment completely off. However, the fact that we've
> posted as we have should challenge Mike's assessment that it is
> specifically liberals that have problems with OJ's sentence.
You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
have a problem with OJ's sentence.
Irish Mike
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 03:42:14
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote
> You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
> have a problem with OJ's sentence.
>
> Irish Mike
Mike, Mike, Mike... Now I'm a "liberal" and an "idiot" because I believe he
was OVERCHARGED for his crime(s) in Nevada? I feel the worst for Stewart,
this poor fuck just happened to be with the WRONG guy and couldn't (as often
as his lawyers tried) get his case severed from O.J.'s. Riddle me this...
As I was watching the senteincing LIVE on local Vegas channel 5 and truTV
(formerly Court TV) why would the Prosecutor tell the judge that he thought
Stewart was "less culpable" than Simpson? It was PAYBACK for L.A. plain and
simple. No one was injured, all of the supposed "victims" stated under oath
they were not harmed in any way, but this poor fuck, because he was with OJ
gets just about exactly the same sentences for crimes that were ridiculously
over zealous. Do you think any "mostly white" jury in America would have
found either of them "not guilty"? Hell, they could have had a videotape of
O.J. in South America at the time of the robbery and would have found him
guilty of all charges.
I'm not a Liberal or an Idiot, but I know and anyone who thinks this through
and watched the NV trial knows this was a "second bite at the O.J. apple"
and Vegas wasn't gonna "fuck up" like L.A. did.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 20:07:35
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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> > I find your assessment completely off. However, the fact that we've
> > posted as we have should challenge Mike's assessment that it is
> > specifically liberals that have problems with OJ's sentence.
>
> You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
> have a problem with OJ's sentence.
So, what adjectives would you use to describe the CONSERVATIVES that have
a problem with OJ's sentence?
For that matter, what adjectives would you use to describe the
conservatives that thought OJ was innocent of murder.
In my area, the only white people I knew of that thought OJ was innocent
of murder were conservative working class, generally Italian. The white
educated middle class liberals I knew all thought he was guilty.
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Date: 07 Dec 2008 03:43:06
From: DaVoice
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Lynx" <a16a9@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:7pur06xuq.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > I find your assessment completely off. However, the fact that we've
>> > posted as we have should challenge Mike's assessment that it is
>> > specifically liberals that have problems with OJ's sentence.
>>
>> You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
>> have a problem with OJ's sentence.
>
> So, what adjectives would you use to describe the CONSERVATIVES that have
> a problem with OJ's sentence?
That's what I'm waiting to hear...Cuz I'm one of 'em.
--
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 23:39:29
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Lynx" <a16a9@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:7pur06xuq.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > I find your assessment completely off. However, the fact that we've
>> > posted as we have should challenge Mike's assessment that it is
>> > specifically liberals that have problems with OJ's sentence.
>>
>> You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
>> have a problem with OJ's sentence.
>
> So, what adjectives would you use to describe the CONSERVATIVES that have
> a problem with OJ's sentence?
>
> For that matter, what adjectives would you use to describe the
> conservatives that thought OJ was innocent of murder.
>
> In my area, the only white people I knew of that thought OJ was innocent
> of murder were conservative working class, generally Italian. The white
> educated middle class liberals I knew all thought he was guilty.
You must live in a strange neighborhood. All the Italians I know thought
Simpson should be strung up by the balls.
Irish Mike
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 19:22:05
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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> You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
> have a problem with OJ's sentence.
Gee Mike, I think you're slipping. That post would imply that you don't
think all liberals are idiots. Surely you must have misspoken.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 23:36:09
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Lynx" <a16a9@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:t3sr06xch.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> You're right and I stand corredted Lynx. Make that "idiot liberals" that
>> have a problem with OJ's sentence.
>
> Gee Mike, I think you're slipping. That post would imply that you don't
> think all liberals are idiots. Surely you must have misspoken.
Not a bit of it. I've met two liberals that are not idiots, plus one in
Boston but I'm not totally sure about him yet.
Irish Mike
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 19:09:14
From: Abbey Johnsson
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 5 2008 8:18 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> "Mr Bungle 34" <michael_grove34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:14abb4b5-2c5e-4a9f-9a10-203a61bb074a@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> "While I won't be shedding any tears for OJ, I think what happened
> today is as fucked up as his acquittal was 13 years ago. In sports
> terminology, it was the biggest make up call ever. Anyone with any
> sense at all knows he was guilty of the murders. He even wrote a book
> that reads as a confession.
>
> In THIS case however, no one was harmed and it seems there is a high
> probability that no one was even truly threatened. The "victims" were
> just as shady as the assailants and I do believe at least some of the
> stuff was stolen from OJ. In most cases, someone could detain a thief
> at gunpoint and be deemed a hero.
>
> Even if the charges were true, I don't even understand how a term as
> long as he got can be handed down for the accused crimes in this case.
> Rapists, child molesters, and well... actually almost any other
> criminal without a long previous record commonly receive much shorter
> sentences. The whole thing just seems like such a setup. He was
> convicted on the same day he beat the murder charges 13 years ago. A
> 364-1 shot? Really? That just happened to happen? They have a lottery
> to determine who gets seats to watch the sentencing and the Goldman's
> “luckily” win some prime seats for the thing?
>
> I don't know, call me crazy, but this just doesn't seem "right". I'm
> not saying its not just in the court of karma, but in the court
> law...I'm not so sure. Our justice system is supposed to be so
> precious, when we apply it, we should be sure that our motives aren't
> based on anything other than what actually happened. No one can say
> with a straight face that todays verdict didn't have anything to do
> with the murders, that would be as silly as the people who claim he
> was “not guilty” for the murders."
>
>
> Well I don't share your outrage over O.J. Simpson's sentence. Fuck the
> murdering ass wipe. He's only got to serve 9 years before he's eligible for
> parole. Hell, his own defense team said they thought the verdict was fair:
>
> "LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was sentenced
> Friday to at least 15 years in prison for his role in an armed confrontation
> with sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas hotel in 2007.
>
> O.J. Simpson told the judge Friday that he was sorry for what he did but
> didn't think it was wrong. He must serve at least nine years before he can
> be considered for parole. Grimacing, Simpson was escorted from the courtroom
> in shackles. The sentence was imposed after Simpson, his voice shaking,
> told Judge Jackie Glass that he was sorry for his actions but believed that
> he did nothing wrong. Glass brushed his apology aside.
> "Earlier in this case, at a bail hearing, I said to Mr. Simpson, I didn't
> know if he was arrogant, ignorant or both," Glass said. "During the trial
> and through this proceeding, I got the answer, and it was both."
>
> She stressed that the sentence was not "payback for anything else,"
> apparently referring to Simpson's acquittal 13 years ago in the slayings of
> his former wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ron Goldman. Defense
> attorneys said Glass' sentence was appropriate. "It could have been a lot
> worse," Yale Galanter said, noting that Simpson and co-defendant Clarence
> "C.J." Stewart both could have been sentenced to life in prison. Instead,
> the maximum time Simpson can spend behind bars is 33 years."
>
> For all the knee jerk, politically correct, bleeding heart liberals out
> there, I don't give a shit that Simpson is black. Any one who murders two
> people in cold blood, whether they're black, white or pin-striped should go
> to prison. Simpson literally got away with murder - twice. He was found
> guilty in a civil court and ordered to pay $30+ million to the Brown and
> Goldman families. Simpson thumbed his nose at the court and didn't pay jack
> shit. Plus the court ruled that Simpon got to keep his $500,000.00 a year
> retirement pension.
>
> Now most people who get away with murdering two people and have half a
> million a year, for life, to live on would thank their lucky stars. But not
> an arrogant asshole like Simpson. He goes out and pulls a bone-headed armed
> robbery in Las Vegas. I don't give a shit if the guys he robbed were scum
> bags just like him, he still committed an armed robbery. So fuck O.J
> Simpson - I hope his parole is denied and the miserable bastard dies in
> prison. If you want to feel sorry for some one, save it for the two people
> he murdered.
>
> Irish Mike
Youre missing mr bungle's point. He's happy to see Oj sitting in prison
as well. He doesnt feel sorry for OJ. He's saying that OJ is being
punsihed for the murders of R and N, not for the robbery at the Palace
Station. And that in itself is also a travesty of justice, just as OJ's
original trial was. I agree with Mr Bungle and i am also happy to see OJ
finally getting some of his deserved punishement, but its kinda sad to see
the justice system work this way. Its fucked up.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 21:38:07
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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>
> Youre missing mr bungle's point. He's happy to see Oj sitting in prison
> as well. He doesnt feel sorry for OJ. He's saying that OJ is being
> punsihed for the murders of R and N, not for the robbery at the Palace
> Station. And that in itself is also a travesty of justice, just as OJ's
> original trial was. I agree with Mr Bungle and i am also happy to see OJ
> finally getting some of his deserved punishement, but its kinda sad to see
> the justice system work this way. Its fucked up.
>
I agree that this "Palace Station Trial" is a travesty by itself. But
seriously, I still find it difficult to believe he killed his wife and
Goldman. I may be the only idiot here that thinks that, but I just can't
believe that he did that. I heard her head was almost cut off. I just
can't picture him doing that. What can I say. I guess maybe I'm a sucker.
I felt bad for him when listening to him earlier today. He's going to be
devastated losing his freedom.
-PP
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 11:07:35
From: bgadams
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 6 2008 1:38 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:qv6p06xicn.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> >
> > Youre missing mr bungle's point. He's happy to see Oj sitting in prison
> > as well. He doesnt feel sorry for OJ. He's saying that OJ is being
> > punsihed for the murders of R and N, not for the robbery at the Palace
> > Station. And that in itself is also a travesty of justice, just as OJ's
> > original trial was. I agree with Mr Bungle and i am also happy to see OJ
> > finally getting some of his deserved punishement, but its kinda sad to see
> > the justice system work this way. Its fucked up.
> >
>
> I agree that this "Palace Station Trial" is a travesty by itself. But
> seriously, I still find it difficult to believe he killed his wife and
> Goldman. I may be the only idiot here that thinks that, but I just can't
> believe that he did that. I heard her head was almost cut off. I just
> can't picture him doing that. What can I say. I guess maybe I'm a sucker.
>
> I felt bad for him when listening to him earlier today. He's going to be
> devastated losing his freedom.
>
> -PP
I went to school with OJ (USC). People who live super star lives
sometimes dont realize or consider that they live under the same rules as
the rest of us. Even back then, things like attending classes and taking
tests without help did not necessarily apply. If you read his book, he
lived a life of luxury that most of us (Russ excepted... :-) ) can only
dream of. Obviously not all super stars do what he did, but it's not much
of a stretch for me to believe that he could honestly justify to himself
that he could get away with things we wouldn't consider doing.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 15:52:18
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"bgadams" <bob@bgadams.com > wrote in message
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> On Dec 6 2008 1:38 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>> "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:qv6p06xicn.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>
>> >
>> > Youre missing mr bungle's point. He's happy to see Oj sitting in
>> > prison
>> > as well. He doesnt feel sorry for OJ. He's saying that OJ is being
>> > punsihed for the murders of R and N, not for the robbery at the Palace
>> > Station. And that in itself is also a travesty of justice, just as OJ's
>> > original trial was. I agree with Mr Bungle and i am also happy to see
>> > OJ
>> > finally getting some of his deserved punishement, but its kinda sad to
>> > see
>> > the justice system work this way. Its fucked up.
>> >
>>
>> I agree that this "Palace Station Trial" is a travesty by itself. But
>> seriously, I still find it difficult to believe he killed his wife and
>> Goldman. I may be the only idiot here that thinks that, but I just can't
>> believe that he did that. I heard her head was almost cut off. I just
>> can't picture him doing that. What can I say. I guess maybe I'm a
>> sucker.
>>
>> I felt bad for him when listening to him earlier today. He's going to be
>> devastated losing his freedom.
>>
>> -PP
>
> I went to school with OJ (USC). People who live super star lives
> sometimes dont realize or consider that they live under the same rules as
> the rest of us. Even back then, things like attending classes and taking
> tests without help did not necessarily apply. If you read his book, he
> lived a life of luxury that most of us (Russ excepted... :-) ) can only
> dream of. Obviously not all super stars do what he did, but it's not much
> of a stretch for me to believe that he could honestly justify to himself
> that he could get away with things we wouldn't consider doing
Simpson murdered two people in cold blood and beat the rap despite a ton of
solid evidence against him. He lost the civil case but never paid jack shit
toward the $30M+ in restitution he owed the Brown and Goldman families for
murdering Nicole and Ron. Plus, the court ruled that Simpsons annual $500K
retirement pension could not be touched. Any one else would have thanked
their lucky stars and retired quietly. But not this stupid son of a bitch.
He pulls a bone-headed armed robbery, gets caught then turns down a plea
bargain offer. Apparently he thought he was still back in central L.A.
with a black jury that would ignore all the evidence against him. The moron
deserved every day he was sentenced to and I hope he dies in prison.
Irish Mike
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 21:40:54
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:qv6p06xicn.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
>>
>> Youre missing mr bungle's point. He's happy to see Oj sitting in prison
>> as well. He doesnt feel sorry for OJ. He's saying that OJ is being
>> punsihed for the murders of R and N, not for the robbery at the Palace
>> Station. And that in itself is also a travesty of justice, just as OJ's
>> original trial was. I agree with Mr Bungle and i am also happy to see OJ
>> finally getting some of his deserved punishement, but its kinda sad to
>> see
>> the justice system work this way. Its fucked up.
>>
>
> I agree that this "Palace Station Trial" is a travesty by itself. But
> seriously, I still find it difficult to believe he killed his wife and
> Goldman. I may be the only idiot here that thinks that...
Don't sell yourself short -- there are a *lot* of other idiots who think
that.
Jim
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 21:59:29
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message news:0MadnR-
>
> Don't sell yourself short -- there are a *lot* of other idiots who think
> that.
>
Screw you, Clave. I just always liked OJ Simpson and found it hard to
believe he could do that. I also have personal experience with the LAPD
doctoring evidence against me before, so I know without a shadow of a doubt
that they do that shit and then lie and lie and lie in court. Either way,
I'm not saying I am possitive he was innocent. I'm just saying I find it
hard to believe that he did it. And I couldn't help but feel bad for him
today as he pled his case in court. The guy's world is crumbling.
-PP
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 16:07:21
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 6 2008 12:59 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message news:0MadnR-
> >
> > Don't sell yourself short -- there are a *lot* of other idiots who think
> > that.
> >
>
> Screw you, Clave. I just always liked OJ Simpson and found it hard to
> believe he could do that. I also have personal experience with the LAPD
> doctoring evidence against me before, so I know without a shadow of a doubt
> that they do that shit and then lie and lie and lie in court.
Oh, do tell!
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:15:31
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message news:0MadnR-
>>
>> Don't sell yourself short -- there are a *lot* of other idiots who think
>> that.
>
> Screw you, Clave.
I win again.
> I just always liked OJ Simpson and found it hard to
> believe he could do that.
It was something of a shock to anyone who thought he was a talented actor.
Who knew how talented?
I'm guessing you never saw "Capricorn I".
> I also have personal experience with the LAPD
> doctoring evidence against me before, so I know without a shadow of a
> doubt
> that they do that shit and then lie and lie and lie in court.
Um, so? Are you claiming you were innocent? If so, of what?
> Either way,
> I'm not saying I am possitive he was innocent. I'm just saying I find it
> hard to believe that he did it.
You'll say a lot for postcount.
> And I couldn't help but feel bad for him
> today as he pled his case in court. The guy's world is crumbling.
You ought to buy him a fruit basket. That might make him feel better.
Think how popular he'd be with the other inmates if he walked into prison
carrying a fruit basket.
Jim
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:25:13
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message
>
> Um, so? Are you claiming you were innocent?
No, I wasn't. But the cops didn't have to lie and they didn't have to
doctor the evidence. I was busted cold. Obviously they wanted to press
mitigated circumstances, perhaps so I could not plea bargain down to lesser
than they wanted to see me beefed with. The thing is, they popped me in the
heart of the Black community in South Central Los Angeles. It just shows
the everyday shit that cops do to black people when they don't think the
cameras are rolling.
-PP
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:45:55
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Um, so? Are you claiming you were innocent?
>
>
> No, I wasn't. But the cops didn't have to lie and they didn't have to
> doctor the evidence. I was busted cold. Obviously they wanted to press
> mitigated circumstances
You still haven't told us what you were innocent of. Hard to be sympathetic
without that.
> perhaps so I could not plea bargain down to lesser than they wanted to see
> me beefed with. The thing is, they popped me in the heart of the Black
> community in South Central Los Angeles.
I guess that must have been where you were at the time.
So you don't want to talk about OJ any more? I think my fruit basket idea
was a good one -- you should really buy him a fruit basket. It'd make you
feel better too.
Jim
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:54:32
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message
news:puednbOb95Y-
I think my fruit basket idea
> was a good one -- you should really buy him a fruit basket. It'd make you
> feel better too.
>
A fruit basket is not going to help him. He's going to be devastated. I
don't think they should be putting him through this. The punishment does
not fit the "crime".
-PP
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:59:53
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:puednbOb95Y-
>
> I think my fruit basket idea
>> was a good one -- you should really buy him a fruit basket. It'd make
>> you feel better too.
>>
>
> A fruit basket is not going to help him.
It might help him make friends in prison. If he shared, I mean.
Keeping it all to himself would be grounds for a real ass-kicking, I would
think.
Jim
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:41:50
From: BillB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Um, so? Are you claiming you were innocent?
>
>
> No, I wasn't. But the cops didn't have to lie and they didn't have to
> doctor the evidence. I was busted cold. Obviously they wanted to press
> mitigated circumstances, perhaps so I could not plea bargain down to
> lesser than they wanted to see me beefed with. The thing is, they popped
> me in the heart of the Black community in South Central Los Angeles. It
> just shows the everyday shit that cops do to black people when they don't
> think the cameras are rolling.
>
> -PP
Anyone who watched the OJ trial knows the LAPD tried to frame a guilty man.
At the end of the day it was hard to tell what evidence was real and what
was fake. OJ's defense team did an incredible job and the jury reached the
correct result.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:47:37
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca > wrote in message
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>
>
> Anyone who watched the OJ trial knows the LAPD tried to frame a guilty
> man. At the end of the day it was hard to tell what evidence was real and
> what was fake. OJ's defense team did an incredible job and the jury
> reached the correct result.
Well I did not watch the trial. But I did watch some movies with OJ Simpson
in them. He seemed like a nice guy. I just find it difficult to believe he
could do that brutal crime. And I'm still not convinced.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 12:09:48
From: MZB
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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And I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night
Mel
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
> news:R8p_k.8170$v37.4811@newsfe01.iad...
>>
>>
>> Anyone who watched the OJ trial knows the LAPD tried to frame a guilty
>> man. At the end of the day it was hard to tell what evidence was real and
>> what was fake. OJ's defense team did an incredible job and the jury
>> reached the correct result.
>
> Well I did not watch the trial. But I did watch some movies with OJ
> Simpson
> in them. He seemed like a nice guy. I just find it difficult to believe
> he could do that brutal crime. And I'm still not convinced.
>
>
>
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 06:43:28
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 6 2008 12:47 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
> Well I did not watch the trial. But I did watch some movies with OJ Simpson
> in them.
So I guess you never saw him play football at USC or with Buffalo....
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 07:34:54
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> So I guess you never saw him play football at USC or with Buffalo....
I was pretty young back then. I didn't get interested in football until I
was, uhh, well actually, I'm STILL not interested in football. I just kinda
always figured that football was just entertainment for the masses of
cerebrally underdeveloped.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 08:30:24
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 6 2008 9:34 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
> "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:glfq06x3mq.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> > So I guess you never saw him play football at USC or with Buffalo....
>
> I was pretty young back then. I didn't get interested in football until I
> was, uhh, well actually, I'm STILL not interested in football. I just kinda
> always figured that football was just entertainment for the masses of
> cerebrally underdeveloped.
And then you wonder why the football players were stuffing you into a
locker and/or giving you swirlies while you were in high school.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 08:38:17
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> On Dec 6 2008 9:34 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>> "Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:glfq06x3mq.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>
>> > So I guess you never saw him play football at USC or with Buffalo....
>>
>> I was pretty young back then. I didn't get interested in football until
>> I
>> was, uhh, well actually, I'm STILL not interested in football. I just
>> kinda
>> always figured that football was just entertainment for the masses of
>> cerebrally underdeveloped.
>
> And then you wonder why the football players were stuffing you into a
> locker and/or giving you swirlies while you were in high school.
>
That's a nice theory, Einstein, but as I've said here before, I never made
it past 8th grade. I didn't go to high school!
But just out of curiosity, what is a swirlie anyway?
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 09:10:31
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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On Dec 6 2008 10:38 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
> But just out of curiosity, what is a swirlie anyway?
You stick a kid's head in the toilet and flush. Leaves a nice look on the
hair.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 09:15:08
From: Susan
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrewed1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> On Dec 6 2008 12:47 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
>
>>
>> Well I did not watch the trial. But I did watch some movies with OJ
>> Simpson
>> in them.
>
> So I guess you never saw him play football at USC or with Buffalo....
way back when I sold real estate for a brief stint.
I showed OJ and Nicolle a couple house - my impression of him was that he
was nice guy and she was an arrogant bitch.
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 16:32:14
From: Dutch
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net > wrote
> I showed OJ and Nicolle a couple house - my impression of him was that he
> was nice guy and she was an arrogant bitch.
The word on OJ is that he has two distinct sides to him. The side most
people see is the charming, loveable, generous, good-natured guy. The side a
few people have seen is a man prone to bursting into fits of extreme rage
when things do not go his way.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 22:56:15
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "BillB" <bogus@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
> news:R8p_k.8170$v37.4811@newsfe01.iad...
>>
>>
>> Anyone who watched the OJ trial knows the LAPD tried to frame a guilty
>> man. At the end of the day it was hard to tell what evidence was real and
>> what was fake. OJ's defense team did an incredible job and the jury
>> reached the correct result.
>
> Well I did not watch the trial. But I did watch some movies with OJ
> Simpson
> in them. He seemed like a nice guy. I just find it difficult to believe
> he could do that brutal crime. And I'm still not convinced.
Now you're just phoning it in.
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 23:01:02
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message
>
> Now you're just phoning it in.
>
I don't know what you mean by that. Try to be a little less cryptic.
Obviously you think he was guilty. Of course, I would expect someone like
you to follow the crowd. But I haven't offered anything concrete saying he
was innocent. All I have said is that it is difficult for me to believe he
did it. And it's just a gut feeling. Am I entitled to a gut feeling? Is
that ok, Clave? Is that ok with you, you argumentative asshole?
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 23:05:29
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Now you're just phoning it in.
>>
>
> I don't know what you mean by that. Try to be a little less cryptic.
> Obviously you think he was guilty. Of course, I would expect someone like
> you to follow the crowd. But I haven't offered anything concrete saying
> he was innocent. All I have said is that it is difficult for me to
> believe he did it. And it's just a gut feeling. Am I entitled to a gut
> feeling? Is that ok, Clave? Is that ok with you, you argumentative
> asshole?
You're the one who's arguing.
Jim
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 23:10:54
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message
>
> You're the one who's arguing.
>
o0o o0o
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 23:16:29
From: Clave
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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>> You're the one who's arguing.
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>
>
> o0o o0o
See how you are?
Jim
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Date: 06 Dec 2008 00:00:33
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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"Abbey Johnsson" <ac68dc0@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> On Dec 5 2008 8:18 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
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>> "Mr Bungle 34" <michael_grove34@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:14abb4b5-2c5e-4a9f-9a10-203a61bb074a@41g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
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>> "While I won't be shedding any tears for OJ, I think what happened
>> today is as fucked up as his acquittal was 13 years ago. In sports
>> terminology, it was the biggest make up call ever. Anyone with any
>> sense at all knows he was guilty of the murders. He even wrote a book
>> that reads as a confession.
>>
>> In THIS case however, no one was harmed and it seems there is a high
>> probability that no one was even truly threatened. The "victims" were
>> just as shady as the assailants and I do believe at least some of the
>> stuff was stolen from OJ. In most cases, someone could detain a thief
>> at gunpoint and be deemed a hero.
>>
>> Even if the charges were true, I don't even understand how a term as
>> long as he got can be handed down for the accused crimes in this case.
>> Rapists, child molesters, and well... actually almost any other
>> criminal without a long previous record commonly receive much shorter
>> sentences. The whole thing just seems like such a setup. He was
>> convicted on the same day he beat the murder charges 13 years ago. A
>> 364-1 shot? Really? That just happened to happen? They have a lottery
>> to determine who gets seats to watch the sentencing and the Goldman's
>> "luckily" win some prime seats for the thing?
>>
>> I don't know, call me crazy, but this just doesn't seem "right". I'm
>> not saying its not just in the court of karma, but in the court
>> law...I'm not so sure. Our justice system is supposed to be so
>> precious, when we apply it, we should be sure that our motives aren't
>> based on anything other than what actually happened. No one can say
>> with a straight face that todays verdict didn't have anything to do
>> with the murders, that would be as silly as the people who claim he
>> was "not guilty" for the murders."
>>
>>
>> Well I don't share your outrage over O.J. Simpson's sentence. Fuck the
>> murdering ass wipe. He's only got to serve 9 years before he's eligible
>> for
>> parole. Hell, his own defense team said they thought the verdict was
>> fair:
>>
>> "LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- Former gridiron great O.J. Simpson was
>> sentenced
>> Friday to at least 15 years in prison for his role in an armed
>> confrontation
>> with sports memorabilia dealers in a Las Vegas hotel in 2007.
>>
>> O.J. Simpson told the judge Friday that he was sorry for what he did but
>> didn't think it was wrong. He must serve at least nine years before he
>> can
>> be considered for parole. Grimacing, Simpson was escorted from the
>> courtroom
>> in shackles. The sentence was imposed after Simpson, his voice shaking,
>> told Judge Jackie Glass that he was sorry for his actions but believed
>> that
>> he did nothing wrong. Glass brushed his apology aside.
>> "Earlier in this case, at a bail hearing, I said to Mr. Simpson, I didn't
>> know if he was arrogant, ignorant or both," Glass said. "During the trial
>> and through this proceeding, I got the answer, and it was both."
>>
>> She stressed that the sentence was not "payback for anything else,"
>> apparently referring to Simpson's acquittal 13 years ago in the slayings
>> of
>> his former wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ron Goldman.
>> Defense
>> attorneys said Glass' sentence was appropriate. "It could have been a
>> lot
>> worse," Yale Galanter said, noting that Simpson and co-defendant Clarence
>> "C.J." Stewart both could have been sentenced to life in prison. Instead,
>> the maximum time Simpson can spend behind bars is 33 years."
>>
>> For all the knee jerk, politically correct, bleeding heart liberals out
>> there, I don't give a shit that Simpson is black. Any one who murders
>> two
>> people in cold blood, whether they're black, white or pin-striped should
>> go
>> to prison. Simpson literally got away with murder - twice. He was found
>> guilty in a civil court and ordered to pay $30+ million to the Brown and
>> Goldman families. Simpson thumbed his nose at the court and didn't pay
>> jack
>> shit. Plus the court ruled that Simpon got to keep his $500,000.00 a
>> year
>> retirement pension.
>>
>> Now most people who get away with murdering two people and have half a
>> million a year, for life, to live on would thank their lucky stars. But
>> not
>> an arrogant asshole like Simpson. He goes out and pulls a bone-headed
>> armed
>> robbery in Las Vegas. I don't give a shit if the guys he robbed were
>> scum
>> bags just like him, he still committed an armed robbery. So fuck O.J
>> Simpson - I hope his parole is denied and the miserable bastard dies in
>> prison. If you want to feel sorry for some one, save it for the two
>> people
>> he murdered.
>>
>> Irish Mike
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> Youre missing mr bungle's point. He's happy to see Oj sitting in prison
> as well. He doesnt feel sorry for OJ. He's saying that OJ is being
> punsihed for the murders of R and N, not for the robbery at the Palace
> Station. And that in itself is also a travesty of justice, just as OJ's
> original trial was. I agree with Mr Bungle and i am also happy to see OJ
> finally getting some of his deserved punishement, but its kinda sad to see
> the justice system work this way. Its fucked up.
Well the guy did commit armed robbery in a casino in Las Vegas and Vegas has
a well known reputation for not tolerating that kind of bull shit. Heard
some lawyers discussing the case on the news and they all felt (with 20-20
hind sight) that Simpson's lawyer should have plea bargained the case
instead of going to trial. Why they didn't is any one's guess but I'd bet
it was Simpson's incredible arogrance. The guy got away with two murders so
he thought the courts couldn't touch him. The difference is this was Las
Vegas not the politically correct left coast and he didn't have a black jury
that ignored the evidence. Simpson got what he deserved.
Irish Mike
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Date: 05 Dec 2008 15:14:09
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: O.J. Gets 15
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Susan wrote:
> he should go back into acting - boo fuckin' hoo
Maybe he can star in a remake of "Prisoner of Love."
--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range
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