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Date: 16 Jan 2009 21:20:55
From: eldo77
Subject: Just not my day
I play 1/3 NLHE in a B&M casino and average 27 hours a week.Been running
bad this month and started off $521 loser for the month counting
today.Just card dead most of the time and playing a little bad also, which
is kind of normal when I start running bad.

None of this is a real problem. I know I'll be winner when I count up in
December.

After playing 4.5 hours today and getting miserable cards, I decide to get
a comp and go eat a Ribeye Steak, then come back and try to get back some
of my $162 loss. So I leave my chips on the table and get up to go eat.

As I'm rising I tell the table " I'm running so bad lately you guys will
probably hit the jackpot when I'm gone". Well, they didn't. But one of the
other four 1/3 tables did and everybody playing 1/3 in the room got a
$1200 players share of the $130,000. I get back to the table and notice
all the I.D. cards on the table and know what happened.

Dealer asked me if I want to take my big blind. " No, I don't think so. I
think I'll just quit and go home."

Now, it is one of my pet peeves for a guy to go eat for an hour and come
back and pick his chips and leave, but I'm going to forgive myself just
this one time.

eldo77

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Date: 16 Jan 2009 22:31:41
From: Steam
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 16 2009 9:20 PM, eldo77 wrote:

> I play 1/3 NLHE in a B&M casino and average 27 hours a week.Been running
> bad this month and started off $521 loser for the month counting
> today.Just card dead most of the time and playing a little bad also, which
> is kind of normal when I start running bad.
>
> None of this is a real problem. I know I'll be winner when I count up in
> December.
>
> After playing 4.5 hours today and getting miserable cards, I decide to get
> a comp and go eat a Ribeye Steak, then come back and try to get back some
> of my $162 loss. So I leave my chips on the table and get up to go eat.
>
> As I'm rising I tell the table " I'm running so bad lately you guys will
> probably hit the jackpot when I'm gone". Well, they didn't. But one of the
> other four 1/3 tables did and everybody playing 1/3 in the room got a
> $1200 players share of the $130,000. I get back to the table and notice
> all the I.D. cards on the table and know what happened.
>
> Dealer asked me if I want to take my big blind. " No, I don't think so. I
> think I'll just quit and go home."
>
> Now, it is one of my pet peeves for a guy to go eat for an hour and come
> back and pick his chips and leave, but I'm going to forgive myself just
> this one time.
>
> eldo77

They let you leave for an hour and didn't pick up your chips? I'm sorry
you're running bad, but that's a nice way to break up a game is people
leaving for an hour.

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 08:09:07
From: Will in New Haven
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17, 5:54=A0am, "Steam" <a74b...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 17 2009 2:36 AM, eldo77 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 17 2009 4:42 AM, Steam wrote:
>
> > > What kind of buy in is it for 1-3, or maybe you were playing higher. =
=A0Just
> > > curious. =A0What part of the country is that (assuming that it is in =
the
> > > country even)? =A0I'm in Los Angeles, but the low blind games in Los =
Angeles
> > > are different than most other places, very short stacked buy ins. =A0=
Also,
> > > most people just eat at the table.
>
> > The buy-in for 1/3 in Shreveport is 100 min/300 max or 50% of the large=
st
> > stack. The games are nowhere near as wild as in California.
>
> > The buy-in for 2/5 is 200 min/500 max or 50% of largest stack.
>
> > We can eat at the table but it's a short order menu and I like some
> > veggies with my meals plus I just don't like to eat at the table. At my
> > age I need a break after a few hours anyway.
>
> > eldo77
>
> Around here, a 2/3 is 100 max, 100 min, a 3/5 is 200 max/min, or 200 min
> 300 max depending where you go. =A0Not a lot of play with the tiny stacks
> compared to the blinds, you just have to play a lot tighter until you pic=
k
> up 2 or 3 buy ins, then you can open up your hands a bit.

Only if you have opponents with similarly large stacks. If you are
playing a short-stack, HIS stack size governs the proper strategy. At
a table of mixed small and large stacks it is important to estimate
who is likely to be involved so that you can play correctly.

--
Will in New Haven



   
Date: 17 Jan 2009 14:24:28
From: Steam
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 8:09 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:
> >
> > Around here, a 2/3 is 100 max, 100 min, a 3/5 is 200 max/min, or 200 min
> > 300 max depending where you go.  Not a lot of play with the tiny stacks
> > compared to the blinds, you just have to play a lot tighter until you pick
> > up 2 or 3 buy ins, then you can open up your hands a bit.
>
> Only if you have opponents with similarly large stacks. If you are
> playing a short-stack, HIS stack size governs the proper strategy. At
> a table of mixed small and large stacks it is important to estimate
> who is likely to be involved so that you can play correctly.
>
> --
> Will in New Haven

The short stacks play more like a tournament, and often forces you to make
pot commitment decisions pre-flop or on the flop, that's just the way it
is. What you mentioned about playing your opponents stack size (or yours
- the smaller of the two) to determine pot commitment decisions is easily
one of the most important fundamentals of nlhe. Mastering this one
concept can take you quite a long ways towards becoming a consistent
winner in nlhe, and every serious player needs to do this well.

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 08:53:31
From: Steam
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 8:09 AM, Will in New Haven wrote:

> On Jan 17, 5:54 am, "Steam" <a74b...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > On Jan 17 2009 2:36 AM, eldo77 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 17 2009 4:42 AM, Steam wrote:
> >
> > > > What kind of buy in is it for 1-3, or maybe you were playing higher.
 Just
> > > > curious.  What part of the country is that (assuming that it is in the
> > > > country even)?  I'm in Los Angeles, but the low blind games in Los
Angeles
> > > > are different than most other places, very short stacked buy ins.
 Also,
> > > > most people just eat at the table.
> >
> > > The buy-in for 1/3 in Shreveport is 100 min/300 max or 50% of the largest
> > > stack. The games are nowhere near as wild as in California.
> >
> > > The buy-in for 2/5 is 200 min/500 max or 50% of largest stack.
> >
> > > We can eat at the table but it's a short order menu and I like some
> > > veggies with my meals plus I just don't like to eat at the table. At my
> > > age I need a break after a few hours anyway.
> >
> > > eldo77
> >
> > Around here, a 2/3 is 100 max, 100 min, a 3/5 is 200 max/min, or 200 min
> > 300 max depending where you go.  Not a lot of play with the tiny stacks
> > compared to the blinds, you just have to play a lot tighter until you pick
> > up 2 or 3 buy ins, then you can open up your hands a bit.
>
> Only if you have opponents with similarly large stacks. If you are
> playing a short-stack, HIS stack size governs the proper strategy. At
> a table of mixed small and large stacks it is important to estimate
> who is likely to be involved so that you can play correctly.
>
> --
> Will in New Haven

Yes I am aware of that, you certainly can't play deep stack poker at a new
table. In a more mature game, the average stack will usually be much
larger.

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 03:00:32
From: funky cold medina
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17, 2:53=A0am, funky cold medina <kellywon...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Jan 17, 2:36=A0am, "eldo77" <ab26...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> The buy in for 1/3 NL at Commerce is a flat $100. =A0People eat at the
> table there.
>

That's 2/3, not 1/3.


  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 02:53:50
From: funky cold medina
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17, 2:36=A0am, "eldo77" <ab26...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 17 2009 4:42 AM, Steam wrote:
>
> > What kind of buy in is it for 1-3, or maybe you were playing higher. =
=A0Just
> > curious. =A0What part of the country is that (assuming that it is in th=
e
> > country even)? =A0I'm in Los Angeles, but the low blind games in Los An=
geles
> > are different than most other places, very short stacked buy ins. =A0Al=
so,
> > most people just eat at the table.
>
> The buy-in for 1/3 in Shreveport is 100 min/300 max or 50% of the largest
> stack. The games are nowhere near as wild as in California.
>
> The buy-in for 2/5 is 200 min/500 max or 50% of largest stack.
>
> We can eat at the table but it's a short order menu and I like some
> veggies with my meals plus I just don't like to eat at the table. At my
> age I need a break after a few hours anyway.
>
> eldo77
>
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The buy in for 1/3 NL at Commerce is a flat $100. People eat at the
table there.

But. There's a room upstairs for tourneys, where they also run a 1/2
NL game with a flat $40 buy in. That game is wild and wacky. Shoving
(and calling) with a range you would never find downstairs (well, I
take that back... you will find it there, but not to the same
extent). Play resembles high-blind tourney style more than cash
game. They always run a dozen or so of those tables and food isn't
served upstairs - so they allow people to leave for an hour to eat.
They put a sign on their chips and keep a timer.

Sorry to hear about your bad run.


  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 00:07:12
From: eldo77
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 1:31 AM, Steam wrote:


> They let you leave for an hour and didn't pick up your chips? I'm sorry
> you're running bad, but that's a nice way to break up a game is people
> leaving for an hour.

They had a house full of people and 5 games going of the type I was
in.Also a third man walking rule.It's pretty customary for an eater to be
gone about an hour.Everybody[at least the regulars] understands that and
don't mind.And I eat there [comped] almost every day whether I'm running
bad or not.And I keep my comp time running while I eat.It cost me $1200
today.Had to happen sooner or later.Take me a long time to eat that up.

If we time it just right we can get an hour and 15 minutes.And it takes
most of it.
They pick you up if you get 2 absent buttons. Plus an additional 15
minutes.

Take 1 hand when a new dealer comes in.He won't give you a button.30
minutes.
New dealer comes in.You get a button.30 more minutes.
Another dealer comes in. You get button #2.
You now have 15 minutes to get back, UNLESS there's NO LIST.If there's no
list there's no point in picking you up.

Like I said, I hate it when other people do what I did, but under the
circumstances I knew I wouldn't play well the rest of the night and I knew
the $1200 would sooth it over.Also they could make fun of me when I left.

eldo77

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 07:06:10
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 2:07 AM, eldo77 wrote:

> On Jan 17 2009 1:31 AM, Steam wrote:
>
>
> > They let you leave for an hour and didn't pick up your chips? I'm sorry
> > you're running bad, but that's a nice way to break up a game is people
> > leaving for an hour.
>
> They had a house full of people and 5 games going of the type I was
> in.Also a third man walking rule.It's pretty customary for an eater to be
> gone about an hour.Everybody[at least the regulars] understands that and
> don't mind.And I eat there [comped] almost every day whether I'm running
> bad or not.And I keep my comp time running while I eat.It cost me $1200
> today.Had to happen sooner or later.Take me a long time to eat that up.
>
> If we time it just right we can get an hour and 15 minutes.And it takes
> most of it.
> They pick you up if you get 2 absent buttons. Plus an additional 15
> minutes.
>
> Take 1 hand when a new dealer comes in.He won't give you a button.30
> minutes.
> New dealer comes in.You get a button.30 more minutes.
> Another dealer comes in. You get button #2.
> You now have 15 minutes to get back, UNLESS there's NO LIST.If there's no
> list there's no point in picking you up.
>
> Like I said, I hate it when other people do what I did, but under the
> circumstances I knew I wouldn't play well the rest of the night and I knew
> the $1200 would sooth it over.Also they could make fun of me when I left.
>
> eldo77

Only the most ignorant would do that . There is a GREAT chance that your
not being there aided in them hitting the jackpot .. and yes I know that
it was at another table .

Your not being there could have prompted someone to enter the jackpot
gamne , or transfer , and everything alters everything else that happens .

Unless it happened the next hand after you left the room , there is a
great chance that you asissted the jackpot .

AND I LOVE THE MORONS WHO SAY "I WAS IN THAT GAME TILL 20 MINUTES AGO !!


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 01:42:43
From: Steam
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 12:07 AM, eldo77 wrote:

> On Jan 17 2009 1:31 AM, Steam wrote:
>
>
> > They let you leave for an hour and didn't pick up your chips? I'm sorry
> > you're running bad, but that's a nice way to break up a game is people
> > leaving for an hour.
>
> They had a house full of people and 5 games going of the type I was
> in.Also a third man walking rule.It's pretty customary for an eater to be
> gone about an hour.Everybody[at least the regulars] understands that and
> don't mind.And I eat there [comped] almost every day whether I'm running
> bad or not.And I keep my comp time running while I eat.It cost me $1200
> today.Had to happen sooner or later.Take me a long time to eat that up.
>
> If we time it just right we can get an hour and 15 minutes.And it takes
> most of it.
> They pick you up if you get 2 absent buttons. Plus an additional 15
> minutes.
>
> Take 1 hand when a new dealer comes in.He won't give you a button.30
> minutes.
> New dealer comes in.You get a button.30 more minutes.
> Another dealer comes in. You get button #2.
> You now have 15 minutes to get back, UNLESS there's NO LIST.If there's no
> list there's no point in picking you up.
>
> Like I said, I hate it when other people do what I did, but under the
> circumstances I knew I wouldn't play well the rest of the night and I knew
> the $1200 would sooth it over.Also they could make fun of me when I left.
>
> eldo77

What kind of buy in is it for 1-3, or maybe you were playing higher. Just
curious. What part of the country is that (assuming that it is in the
country even)? I'm in Los Angeles, but the low blind games in Los Angeles
are different than most other places, very short stacked buy ins. Also,
most people just eat at the table.

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 02:36:38
From: eldo77
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 4:42 AM, Steam wrote:


> What kind of buy in is it for 1-3, or maybe you were playing higher. Just
> curious. What part of the country is that (assuming that it is in the
> country even)? I'm in Los Angeles, but the low blind games in Los Angeles
> are different than most other places, very short stacked buy ins. Also,
> most people just eat at the table.

The buy-in for 1/3 in Shreveport is 100 min/300 max or 50% of the largest
stack. The games are nowhere near as wild as in California.

The buy-in for 2/5 is 200 min/500 max or 50% of largest stack.

We can eat at the table but it's a short order menu and I like some
veggies with my meals plus I just don't like to eat at the table. At my
age I need a break after a few hours anyway.

eldo77

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 02:54:23
From: Steam
Subject: Re: Just not my day
On Jan 17 2009 2:36 AM, eldo77 wrote:

> On Jan 17 2009 4:42 AM, Steam wrote:
>
>
> > What kind of buy in is it for 1-3, or maybe you were playing higher. Just
> > curious. What part of the country is that (assuming that it is in the
> > country even)? I'm in Los Angeles, but the low blind games in Los Angeles
> > are different than most other places, very short stacked buy ins. Also,
> > most people just eat at the table.
>
> The buy-in for 1/3 in Shreveport is 100 min/300 max or 50% of the largest
> stack. The games are nowhere near as wild as in California.
>
> The buy-in for 2/5 is 200 min/500 max or 50% of largest stack.
>
> We can eat at the table but it's a short order menu and I like some
> veggies with my meals plus I just don't like to eat at the table. At my
> age I need a break after a few hours anyway.
>
> eldo77

Around here, a 2/3 is 100 max, 100 min, a 3/5 is 200 max/min, or 200 min
300 max depending where you go. Not a lot of play with the tiny stacks
compared to the blinds, you just have to play a lot tighter until you pick
up 2 or 3 buy ins, then you can open up your hands a bit.

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Date: 17 Jan 2009 00:09:24
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Just not my day
"eldo77" <ab26ec1@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:g6g846xp0q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Jan 17 2009 1:31 AM, Steam wrote:
>
>
>> They let you leave for an hour and didn't pick up your chips? I'm sorry
>> you're running bad, but that's a nice way to break up a game is people
>> leaving for an hour.
>
> They had a house full of people and 5 games going of the type I was
> in.Also a third man walking rule.It's pretty customary for an eater to be
> gone about an hour.Everybody[at least the regulars] understands that and
> don't mind.And I eat there [comped] almost every day whether I'm running
> bad or not.And I keep my comp time running while I eat.It cost me $1200
> today.Had to happen sooner or later.Take me a long time to eat that up.


Dude, there's work at the post office.

Just sayin'.

Jim