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Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:05:01
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
I'm absolutely stunned. The Iranians just (politely) told Obama to shove
his "carrot and stick" diplomacy up his ass and fuck off! Who could have
expected some thing like this? How could this happen? Don't they know
they're talking to The Messiah - the man endorsed by Hamas and Hezbollah?
That Obama has replaced George Bush who, as we all know, was the only reason
Iran had not abandoned its nuclear bomb building activities and pounded
their AK-47s in to love beads. Who could have imagined the Iranians would
react like this?

"TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has rejected a suggestion by U.S. President-elect
Barack Obama that a carrot and stick policy of economic incentives and
additional sanctions might persuade the Iranian government to change its
behavior.
Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that Obama's
proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past.

Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the international community
should adopt a carrot and stick policy to alter Iran's behavior toward its
nuclear program and support for militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. He
also said the U.S. should increase direct diplomacy."



Well, I wonder what the Israelis could be thinking?

Irish Mike












 
Date: 09 Dec 2008 01:49:45
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:QAb%k.2444$jZ1.1590@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
> I'm absolutely stunned...

IQ of a bunny, I doubt anyone's surprised.

Jim




 
Date: 08 Dec 2008 18:41:05
From: hanks
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 8:05 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> I'm absolutely stunned. The Iranians just (politely) told Obama to shove
> his "carrot and stick" diplomacy up his ass and fuck off! Who could have
> expected some thing like this? How could this happen? Don't they know
> they're talking to The Messiah - the man endorsed by Hamas and Hezbollah?
> That Obama has replaced George Bush who, as we all know, was the only reason
> Iran had not abandoned its nuclear bomb building activities and pounded
> their AK-47s in to love beads. Who could have imagined the Iranians would
> react like this?
>
> "TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has rejected a suggestion by U.S. President-elect
> Barack Obama that a carrot and stick policy of economic incentives and
> additional sanctions might persuade the Iranian government to change its
> behavior.
> Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that Obama's
> proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past.
>
> Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the international community
> should adopt a carrot and stick policy to alter Iran's behavior toward its
> nuclear program and support for militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. He
> also said the U.S. should increase direct diplomacy."
>
>
>
> Well, I wonder what the Israelis could be thinking?
>
> Irish Mike

Dear Mikey,
So what if Iran told our president elect to fuck off? They are our mortal
enemy.
I would much prefer having a world class leader like our LEGALLY elected
president elect Obama
speak on my behalf than having a bumbling moron like George W and his band
of thugs ruin our reputation with all of the free world powers.
Incidentally Mikey, as I have told you previously there is a vast
difference between African Americans, black people and niggers.
YOU MIKE ARE A NIGGER, nothing more and nothing less.
hank


hanks

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:01:01
From: Porsche_Dan
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8, 10:05=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> I'm absolutely stunned. =A0The Iranians just (politely) told Obama to sho=
ve
> his "carrot and stick" diplomacy up his ass and fuck off! =A0Who could ha=
ve
> expected some thing like this? =A0How could this happen? =A0Don't they kn=
ow
> they're talking to The Messiah - the man endorsed by Hamas and Hezbollah?
> That Obama has replaced George Bush who, as we all know, was the only rea=
son
> Iran had not abandoned its nuclear bomb building activities and pounded
> their AK-47s in to love beads. =A0Who could have imagined the Iranians wo=
uld
> react like this?
>
> "TEHRAN, Iran - =A0Iran has rejected a suggestion by U.S. President-elect
> Barack Obama that a carrot and stick policy of economic incentives and
> additional sanctions might persuade the Iranian government to change its
> behavior.
> Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that Obama=
's
> proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past.
>
> Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the international commun=
ity
> should adopt a carrot and stick policy to alter Iran's behavior toward it=
s
> nuclear program and support for militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.=
He
> also said the U.S. should increase direct diplomacy."
>
> Well, I wonder what the Israelis could be thinking?
>
> Irish Mike

Well it had better be a big stick. In my view foreign policy is like a
chess game. The guy that thinks ahead the most moves and uses all of
his pieces wins. With Bush and Saddam it was like a stud low poker
game and both were going for high. My hope is that Obama is choosing
the path of strategic consensus with the international community. And
I view Iran's response as a positive, if they didn't care they
wouldn't bitch. People are starving in Iran and it is going to get
worse. Energy prices are key here people, Iran has nothing else to
give the world.

The big Obama mistake I see is appointing another woman as Secretary
of State. Not a great plan for Muslim relations? What did Rice
accomplish anyway? Plus Hillary is a cunt: http://hillaryisacunt.org/

What the Israelis are thinking? I got your carrot right here pal!

Iran has the largest population of Jews in the Middle East (not
including Israel). So don't tell me that the Jew spy network is not at
work here and that Israel knows exactly what is going on inside Iran's
Nuclear program. The program started in the 1950's for Christs sake.
An attack will come when the time is right. Israel is playing chess
not poker.


Reference: I married an Israeli!









  
Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:31:33
From: Jason Pawloski
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 11:01 AM, Porsche_Dan wrote:

> On Dec 8, 10:05 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> > I'm absolutely stunned.  The Iranians just (politely) told Obama to shove
> > his "carrot and stick" diplomacy up his ass and fuck off!  Who could have
> > expected some thing like this?  How could this happen?  Don't they know
> > they're talking to The Messiah - the man endorsed by Hamas and Hezbollah?
> > That Obama has replaced George Bush who, as we all know, was the only
reason
> > Iran had not abandoned its nuclear bomb building activities and pounded
> > their AK-47s in to love beads.  Who could have imagined the Iranians would
> > react like this?
> >
> > "TEHRAN, Iran -  Iran has rejected a suggestion by U.S. President-elect
> > Barack Obama that a carrot and stick policy of economic incentives and
> > additional sanctions might persuade the Iranian government to change its
> > behavior.
> > Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that Obama's
> > proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past.
> >
> > Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the international
community
> > should adopt a carrot and stick policy to alter Iran's behavior toward its
> > nuclear program and support for militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
He
> > also said the U.S. should increase direct diplomacy."
> >
> > Well, I wonder what the Israelis could be thinking?
> >
> > Irish Mike
>
> Well it had better be a big stick. In my view foreign policy is like a
> chess game. The guy that thinks ahead the most moves and uses all of
> his pieces wins. With Bush and Saddam it was like a stud low poker
> game and both were going for high. My hope is that Obama is choosing
> the path of strategic consensus with the international community. And
> I view Iran's response as a positive, if they didn't care they
> wouldn't bitch. People are starving in Iran and it is going to get
> worse. Energy prices are key here people, Iran has nothing else to
> give the world.
>
> The big Obama mistake I see is appointing another woman as Secretary
> of State. Not a great plan for Muslim relations? What did Rice
> accomplish anyway? Plus Hillary is a cunt: http://hillaryisacunt.org/
>
> What the Israelis are thinking? I got your carrot right here pal!
>
> Iran has the largest population of Jews in the Middle East (not
> including Israel). So don't tell me that the Jew spy network is not at
> work here and that Israel knows exactly what is going on inside Iran's
> Nuclear program. The program started in the 1950's for Christs sake.
> An attack will come when the time is right. Israel is playing chess
> not poker.
>
>
> Reference: I married an Israeli!

wtf is this crap, is someone impersonating penis_dan?

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 09:19:13
From: JerseyRudy
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 11:05 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> I'm absolutely stunned. The Iranians just (politely) told Obama to shove
> his "carrot and stick" diplomacy up his ass and fuck off! Who could have
> expected some thing like this? How could this happen? Don't they know
> they're talking to The Messiah - the man endorsed by Hamas and Hezbollah?
> That Obama has replaced George Bush who, as we all know, was the only reason
> Iran had not abandoned its nuclear bomb building activities and pounded
> their AK-47s in to love beads. Who could have imagined the Iranians would
> react like this?
>
> "TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has rejected a suggestion by U.S. President-elect
> Barack Obama that a carrot and stick policy of economic incentives and
> additional sanctions might persuade the Iranian government to change its
> behavior.
> Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that Obama's
> proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past.
>
> Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the international community
> should adopt a carrot and stick policy to alter Iran's behavior toward its
> nuclear program and support for militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. He
> also said the U.S. should increase direct diplomacy."
>
>
>
> Well, I wonder what the Israelis could be thinking?
>
> Irish Mike


This is an obvious reaction from Iran in response to Obama's statement
yesterday that it might be necessary to tighten the economic sanctions
against Iran. The Bush administration failed to tighten the sanctions
against Iran because too many countries were turned off by the Bush
administration's foreign policy. Obama's strategy is one that makes sense
and has a chance to succeed: all of the countries who have been on the
fence regarding supporting sanctions against Iran will now see that Iran
is the party at fault given that Iran is unwilling to negotiate in good
faith with the US; and the only way that we will succeed in preventing
Iran from developing a nuclear weapon (short of the military option which
is not a realistic option at this point) is to tighten the sanctions, by
including more countries and by adding extra teeth to them...now that Iran
is rebuffing the carrot offered by Obama, this will be much easier to get
passed in the United Nations.

The sharp drop in oil prices creates a tremendous opportunity for the
world (led by the US) to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons program.
Iran is in the midst of an economic crises...the government is starved for
cash and has seen their revenue source (oil) shrink drastically. Because
of this, the leadership's popularity has fallen...the Iranian people are
currently not interested in nationalism; they are interested in feeding
their family. If we play our cards right, we can succeed...but it will
not happen overnight. and it will only happen if we get support from as
many other countries as possible.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 15:53:10
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 12:19 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 11:05 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > I'm absolutely stunned. The Iranians just (politely) told Obama to shove
> > his "carrot and stick" diplomacy up his ass and fuck off! Who could have
> > expected some thing like this? How could this happen? Don't they know
> > they're talking to The Messiah - the man endorsed by Hamas and Hezbollah?
> > That Obama has replaced George Bush who, as we all know, was the only
reason
> > Iran had not abandoned its nuclear bomb building activities and pounded
> > their AK-47s in to love beads. Who could have imagined the Iranians would
> > react like this?
> >
> > "TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has rejected a suggestion by U.S. President-elect
> > Barack Obama that a carrot and stick policy of economic incentives and
> > additional sanctions might persuade the Iranian government to change its
> > behavior.
> > Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hasan Qashqavi, said Monday that
Obama's
> > proposed policy was unacceptable and had failed in the past.
> >
> > Obama told NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday that the international
community
> > should adopt a carrot and stick policy to alter Iran's behavior toward its
> > nuclear program and support for militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
He
> > also said the U.S. should increase direct diplomacy."
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I wonder what the Israelis could be thinking?
> >
> > Irish Mike
>
>
> This is an obvious reaction from Iran in response to Obama's statement
> yesterday that it might be necessary to tighten the economic sanctions
> against Iran. The Bush administration failed to tighten the sanctions
> against Iran because too many countries were turned off by the Bush
> administration's foreign policy. Obama's strategy is one that makes sense
> and has a chance to succeed: all of the countries who have been on the
> fence regarding supporting sanctions against Iran will now see that Iran
> is the party at fault given that Iran is unwilling to negotiate in good
> faith with the US; and the only way that we will succeed in preventing
> Iran from developing a nuclear weapon (short of the military option which
> is not a realistic option at this point) is to tighten the sanctions, by
> including more countries and by adding extra teeth to them...now that Iran
> is rebuffing the carrot offered by Obama, this will be much easier to get
> passed in the United Nations.
>
> The sharp drop in oil prices creates a tremendous opportunity for the
> world (led by the US) to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons program.
> Iran is in the midst of an economic crises...the government is starved for
> cash and has seen their revenue source (oil) shrink drastically. Because
> of this, the leadership's popularity has fallen...the Iranian people are
> currently not interested in nationalism; they are interested in feeding
> their family. If we play our cards right, we can succeed...but it will
> not happen overnight. and it will only happen if we get support from as
> many other countries as possible.

All of this presupposes that we have the right/moral authority to
determine who has and doesn't have nuclear weapons, of course, which is
pretty hypocritical once you acknowledge that we are are the primary
force behind global nuclear proliferation. American exceptionalism strikes
again!

Iran is perfectly within their legal rights to pursue a peaceful nuclear
energy policy, and has not demonstrated the ability to weaponize, or
create capable delivery systems for, their nuclear stockpile. They are
subject to regular examinations by the IAEA, which as found no evidence of
an active nuclear program dating back to (at least) 2003. We have no
business meddling in their nuclear activities (not that that will stop us,
of course).

I've got a wild idea. Why don't we demand Israel sign the NNPT, you know,
join the party of legal nuclear nations? If we're really concerned about
containing nuclear states, and non-proliferation, and all of that.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:19:18
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8, 10:19=A0am, "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f4...@webnntp.invalid >
wrote:

>
> Sorry, i don't throw out opinions that are based on my personal wishes or
> about situations that, like you, I am not qualified to make assertions ab=
out.

That's great! Now, if only you weren't a scumbag welcher...

- Bob T.
>
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 09:38:45
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 12:19 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:

> This is an obvious reaction from Iran in response to Obama's statement
> yesterday that it might be necessary to tighten the economic sanctions
> against Iran.

Obvious to whom ?

The Bush administration failed to tighten the sanctions
> against Iran because too many countries were turned off by the Bush
> administration's foreign policy.

How do you know this ?

Obama's strategy is one that makes sense
> and has a chance to succeed: all of the countries who have been on the
> fence regarding supporting sanctions against Iran will now see that Iran
> is the party at fault given that Iran is unwilling to negotiate in good
> faith with the US; and the only way that we will succeed in preventing
> Iran from developing a nuclear weapon (short of the military option which
> is not a realistic option at this point) is to tighten the sanctions, by
> including more countries and by adding extra teeth to them...now that Iran
> is rebuffing the carrot offered by Obama, this will be much easier to get
> passed in the United Nations.
>
> The sharp drop in oil prices creates a tremendous opportunity for the
> world (led by the US) to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons program.
> Iran is in the midst of an economic crises...the government is starved for
> cash and has seen their revenue source (oil) shrink drastically. Because
> of this, the leadership's popularity has fallen...the Iranian people are
> currently not interested in nationalism; they are interested in feeding
> their family. If we play our cards right, we can succeed...but it will
> not happen overnight. and it will only happen if we get support from as
> many other countries as possible.


Ther arent starved for cash because oil is low for a week.

You make up things a lot.

Your assertions of fact are transparent opinions.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:11:50
From: JerseyRudy
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 12:38 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 12:19 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
>
> > This is an obvious reaction from Iran in response to Obama's statement
> > yesterday that it might be necessary to tighten the economic sanctions
> > against Iran.
>
> Obvious to whom ?

To people who have been observing the reactions of the Iranian government
since 1979. When they feel pressure from an outsider, they react with
verbal aggression.
>
> The Bush administration failed to tighten the sanctions
> > against Iran because too many countries were turned off by the Bush
> > administration's foreign policy.
>
> How do you know this ?

I follow the issue, especially the prior debates in the UN regarding
sanctions against Iran.
>
> Obama's strategy is one that makes sense
> > and has a chance to succeed: all of the countries who have been on the
> > fence regarding supporting sanctions against Iran will now see that Iran
> > is the party at fault given that Iran is unwilling to negotiate in good
> > faith with the US; and the only way that we will succeed in preventing
> > Iran from developing a nuclear weapon (short of the military option which
> > is not a realistic option at this point) is to tighten the sanctions, by
> > including more countries and by adding extra teeth to them...now that Iran
> > is rebuffing the carrot offered by Obama, this will be much easier to get
> > passed in the United Nations.
> >
> > The sharp drop in oil prices creates a tremendous opportunity for the
> > world (led by the US) to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons program.
> > Iran is in the midst of an economic crises...the government is starved for
> > cash and has seen their revenue source (oil) shrink drastically. Because
> > of this, the leadership's popularity has fallen...the Iranian people are
> > currently not interested in nationalism; they are interested in feeding
> > their family. If we play our cards right, we can succeed...but it will
> > not happen overnight. and it will only happen if we get support from as
> > many other countries as possible.
>
>
> Ther arent starved for cash because oil is low for a week.

I never put it this simplistically. The drop in the price of oil is one of
the factors...they have been struggling economically for a while. The drop
in the price of oil makes their problems more acute.
>
> You make up things a lot.
>
> Your assertions of fact are transparent opinions.

You seem confused about many things, including the difference between
facts and opinion...but if your opinions differ, then it would help if you
provided some of your own.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:19:01
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 1:11 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 12:38 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 12:19 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
> >
> > > This is an obvious reaction from Iran in response to Obama's statement
> > > yesterday that it might be necessary to tighten the economic sanctions
> > > against Iran.
> >
> > Obvious to whom ?
>
> To people who have been observing the reactions of the Iranian government
> since 1979. When they feel pressure from an outsider, they react with
> verbal aggression.
> >
> > The Bush administration failed to tighten the sanctions
> > > against Iran because too many countries were turned off by the Bush
> > > administration's foreign policy.
> >
> > How do you know this ?
>
> I follow the issue, especially the prior debates in the UN regarding
> sanctions against Iran.
> >
> > Obama's strategy is one that makes sense
> > > and has a chance to succeed: all of the countries who have been on the
> > > fence regarding supporting sanctions against Iran will now see that Iran
> > > is the party at fault given that Iran is unwilling to negotiate in good
> > > faith with the US; and the only way that we will succeed in preventing
> > > Iran from developing a nuclear weapon (short of the military option which
> > > is not a realistic option at this point) is to tighten the sanctions, by
> > > including more countries and by adding extra teeth to them...now that
Iran
> > > is rebuffing the carrot offered by Obama, this will be much easier to get
> > > passed in the United Nations.
> > >
> > > The sharp drop in oil prices creates a tremendous opportunity for the
> > > world (led by the US) to get Iran to stop its nuclear weapons program.
> > > Iran is in the midst of an economic crises...the government is starved
for
> > > cash and has seen their revenue source (oil) shrink drastically. Because
> > > of this, the leadership's popularity has fallen...the Iranian people are
> > > currently not interested in nationalism; they are interested in feeding
> > > their family. If we play our cards right, we can succeed...but it will
> > > not happen overnight. and it will only happen if we get support from as
> > > many other countries as possible.
> >
> >
> > Ther arent starved for cash because oil is low for a week.
>
> I never put it this simplistically. The drop in the price of oil is one of
> the factors...they have been struggling economically for a while. The drop
> in the price of oil makes their problems more acute.
> >
> > You make up things a lot.
> >
> > Your assertions of fact are transparent opinions.
>
> You seem confused about many things, including the difference between
> facts and opinion...but if your opinions differ, then it would help if you
> provided some of your own.

Sorry, i don't throw out opinions that are based on my personal wishes or
about situations that, like you, I am not qualified to make assertions
about.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:23:42
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 1:19 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 1:11 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:

> > You seem confused about many things, including the difference between
> > facts and opinion...but if your opinions differ, then it would help if you
> > provided some of your own.
>
> Sorry, i don't throw out opinions that are based on my personal wishes or
> about situations that, like you, I am not qualified to make assertions
> about.

How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?

Fell
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:59:04
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 1:23 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 1:19 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 1:11 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
>
> > > You seem confused about many things, including the difference between
> > > facts and opinion...but if your opinions differ, then it would help if
you
> > > provided some of your own.
> >
> > Sorry, i don't throw out opinions that are based on my personal wishes or
> > about situations that, like you, I am not qualified to make assertions
> > about.
>
> How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
> you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
> elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
>

ok punk, i have to say bye to u.

ur lil buddy called the bet off but now doesnt want it to be called off

cant win at fullsh!t anymore and u are cranky now ? bye

> Fell
> --
> Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 12:35:09
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 1:59 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 1:23 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 1:19 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 8 2008 1:11 PM, JerseyRudy wrote:
> >
> > > > You seem confused about many things, including the difference between
> > > > facts and opinion...but if your opinions differ, then it would help if
> you
> > > > provided some of your own.
> > >
> > > Sorry, i don't throw out opinions that are based on my personal wishes or
> > > about situations that, like you, I am not qualified to make assertions
> > > about.
> >
> > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
> > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
> > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> >
>
> ok punk, i have to say bye to u.
>
> ur lil buddy called the bet off but now doesnt want it to be called off
>
> cant win at fullsh!t anymore and u are cranky now ? bye

Actually I'm up over $15,000 this year at full tilt. It's you who cannot
seem to win there (or anywhere, for that matter).

By the way, nice dodge of my question, welcher.

Fell
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 13:30:51
From: John the Savage
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
FellKnight wrote:
>
> How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
> you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
> elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
>

Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being finished
until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.


       
Date: 08 Dec 2008 14:50:49
From: pokertoker
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off


"John the Savage" <savage0000@gmail.com > wrote in message
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>
> Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being finished
> until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> himself.


You really are an idiot. Canadian too?

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:50:19
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 1:30 PM, John the Savage wrote:

> FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
> > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
> > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> >
>
> Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being finished
> until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
> does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.

Oh I know, I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him. If he says
no, or declines to answer, then I will harass him as the lowlife welcher
that he is. If, on the other hand, he does agree to leave for the period
of a year after Dec 15th, then I will retract my statements. It is
something of an angleshot, in that it is technically within the rules,
even though every other bet on RGP revolved around Nov 4th results.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:01:04
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 1:50 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 1:30 PM, John the Savage wrote:
>
> > FellKnight wrote:
> > >
> > > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
> > > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
> > > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> > >
> >
> > Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being finished
> > until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> > himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
> > does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.
>
> Oh I know, I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him. If he says
> no, or declines to answer, then I will harass him as the lowlife welcher
> that he is. If, on the other hand, he does agree to leave for the period
> of a year after Dec 15th, then I will retract my statements. It is
> something of an angleshot, in that it is technically within the rules,
> even though every other bet on RGP revolved around Nov 4th results.

your retractions wont be seen by me.

it isnt an angleshot when ur bitch called the bet off.


ur bitch is making the angleshot and you are letting ur affair cloud ur
judgement.
>
> Fell
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Date: 08 Dec 2008 12:36:03
From: Scott/sjakma
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 2:01 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 1:50 PM, FellKnight wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 1:30 PM, John the Savage wrote:
> >
> > > FellKnight wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about? Are
> > > > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama is
> > > > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being finished
> > > until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> > > himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
> > > does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.
> >
> > Oh I know, I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him. If he says
> > no, or declines to answer, then I will harass him as the lowlife welcher
> > that he is. If, on the other hand, he does agree to leave for the period
> > of a year after Dec 15th, then I will retract my statements. It is
> > something of an angleshot, in that it is technically within the rules,
> > even though every other bet on RGP revolved around Nov 4th results.
>
> your retractions wont be seen by me.
>
> it isnt an angleshot when ur bitch called the bet off.
>
>
> ur bitch is making the angleshot and you are letting ur affair cloud ur
> judgement.
> >
> > Fell
> > --
> > Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!

Find me the post where I called off the bet? I never called off the bet
but did solicit ideas from others because I was kind of feeling bad about
the bet and having you disappear from RGP for a year.. I honestly thought
you were a good guy and I even came to your defense many times over the
years... Now you are nothing but a dirty ignorant scumbag with ZERO
CREDIBILITY that cannot own up to a bet.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 21:27:37
From: garycarson
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 8 2008 3:36 PM, Scott/sjakma wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 2:01 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 1:50 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 8 2008 1:30 PM, John the Savage wrote:
> > >
> > > > FellKnight wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about?
Are
> > > > > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack Obama
is
> > > > > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being finished
> > > > until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> > > > himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
> > > > does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.
> > >
> > > Oh I know, I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him. If he says
> > > no, or declines to answer, then I will harass him as the lowlife welcher
> > > that he is. If, on the other hand, he does agree to leave for the period
> > > of a year after Dec 15th, then I will retract my statements. It is
> > > something of an angleshot, in that it is technically within the rules,
> > > even though every other bet on RGP revolved around Nov 4th results.
> >
> > your retractions wont be seen by me.
> >
> > it isnt an angleshot when ur bitch called the bet off.
> >
> >
> > ur bitch is making the angleshot and you are letting ur affair cloud ur
> > judgement.
> > >
> > > Fell
> > > --
> > > Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!
>
> Find me the post where I called off the bet?

He's never said you did it in a post. He said you did it in a chatline on
some poker site.

> I never called off the bet
> but did solicit ideas from others because I was kind of feeling bad about
> the bet and having you disappear from RGP for a year.

Had you said anything to him before you solicited those ideas?

It really sounds to me like you told him you were going to renegotiate the
bet then changed your mind after soliciting comments from others.

I really don't understand why so many uninterested parties are making a
big deal out of this.

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Date: 09 Dec 2008 05:36:29
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 9 2008 12:27 AM, garycarson wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 3:36 PM, Scott/sjakma wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 2:01 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 8 2008 1:50 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Dec 8 2008 1:30 PM, John the Savage wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > FellKnight wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about?
> Are
> > > > > > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack
Obama
> is
> > > > > > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being
finished
> > > > > until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> > > > > himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
> > > > > does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.
> > > >
> > > > Oh I know, I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him. If he
says
> > > > no, or declines to answer, then I will harass him as the lowlife
welcher
> > > > that he is. If, on the other hand, he does agree to leave for the
period
> > > > of a year after Dec 15th, then I will retract my statements. It is
> > > > something of an angleshot, in that it is technically within the rules,
> > > > even though every other bet on RGP revolved around Nov 4th results.
> > >
> > > your retractions wont be seen by me.
> > >
> > > it isnt an angleshot when ur bitch called the bet off.
> > >
> > >
> > > ur bitch is making the angleshot and you are letting ur affair cloud ur
> > > judgement.
> > > >
> > > > Fell
> > > > --
> > > > Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!
> >
> > Find me the post where I called off the bet?
>
> He's never said you did it in a post. He said you did it in a chatline on
> some poker site.

A convenient lie, given that all bet discussions were made on RGP and that
poker site chat logs would be difficult to prove.

> > I never called off the bet
> > but did solicit ideas from others because I was kind of feeling bad about
> > the bet and having you disappear from RGP for a year.
>
> Had you said anything to him before you solicited those ideas?
>
> It really sounds to me like you told him you were going to renegotiate the
> bet then changed your mind after soliciting comments from others.
>
> I really don't understand why so many uninterested parties are making a
> big deal out of this.

Whatever gives you the idea that the rest of us are uninterested? I would
be every bit as interested in a bet that got you off RGP, Carson.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 22:01:55
From: Scott/sjakma
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off
On Dec 9 2008 12:27 AM, garycarson wrote:

> On Dec 8 2008 3:36 PM, Scott/sjakma wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8 2008 2:01 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 8 2008 1:50 PM, FellKnight wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Dec 8 2008 1:30 PM, John the Savage wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > FellKnight wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about something you are qualified to make an assertion about?
> Are
> > > > > > you, or are you not, going to leave RGP for one year if Barack
Obama
> is
> > > > > > elected president by the electoral college on December 15th?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, don't buy into this bullshit about the election not being
finished
> > > > > until the electoral college votes. He doesn't even believe that
> > > > > himself. If so, why did he take weeks off before returning, and why
> > > > > does he need a new nick to do so? His rationalizations won't end.
> > > >
> > > > Oh I know, I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him. If he
says
> > > > no, or declines to answer, then I will harass him as the lowlife
welcher
> > > > that he is. If, on the other hand, he does agree to leave for the
period
> > > > of a year after Dec 15th, then I will retract my statements. It is
> > > > something of an angleshot, in that it is technically within the rules,
> > > > even though every other bet on RGP revolved around Nov 4th results.
> > >
> > > your retractions wont be seen by me.
> > >
> > > it isnt an angleshot when ur bitch called the bet off.
> > >
> > >
> > > ur bitch is making the angleshot and you are letting ur affair cloud ur
> > > judgement.
> > > >
> > > > Fell
> > > > --
> > > > Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!
> >
> > Find me the post where I called off the bet?
>
> He's never said you did it in a post. He said you did it in a chatline on
> some poker site.
>
> > I never called off the bet
> > but did solicit ideas from others because I was kind of feeling bad about
> > the bet and having you disappear from RGP for a year.
>
> Had you said anything to him before you solicited those ideas?
>
> It really sounds to me like you told him you were going to renegotiate the
> bet then changed your mind after soliciting comments from others.
>
> I really don't understand why so many uninterested parties are making a
> big deal out of this.


WTF.. The only place in the last three years I would have had a
conversation with him is here on RGP. I have never chatted with him
anywhere else.. I chatted with him on Full Tilt about 3 years ago when we
were heads up in a tournament and it was only to tell him I was the same
guy that defended him against some nasty attacks against him.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:24:31
From: BillB
Subject: Re: Iran tells Obama to f**K off

"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:gg7016xbaj.ln2@recgroups.com...

> it isnt an angleshot when ur bitch called the bet off.

The bet wasn't called off. That's a lie. But just for the record, I think
you should be excused from your obligation. You have suffered enough seeing
a black man being elected president.