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Date: 13 Feb 2009 21:21:42
From: funky cold medina
Subject: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
Exterminate the brute.

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/mansa-musa-muhu.html


"Mansa Musa Muhummed, who beat, tortured and starved his children for
decades, was sentenced to seven life terms in prison today by a judge
in Murrieta who said the man=92s "reign of terror" against his family
merited the harsh sentence.

"Mr. Muhummed showed no remorse and accepted no responsibility for his
twisted behavior, and the court is sending the strongest message
possible," Riverside County Superior Court Judge F. Paul Dickerson III
said.

Some of Muhummed=92s 19 children urged the court to show no mercy to
their father because he showed no mercy to them. "I=92m very afraid of
him, please don=92t let him ever get out of jail," said Sharon Boddie,
who was locked up in a dark garage and starved by her father. When
police found her, she was 18 and weighed 48 pounds. "I still have
nightmares about him,=94 she told the judge. =93Parents are supposed to
protect their children, not abuse them.=94

During the trial, family members testified that Muhummed locked them
in their home, hanged them from the ceiling and beat them, made them
eat their own feces and vomit, and routinely hit them with boat oars,
hoses and electric cords. He also had three wives.

One of his wives finally slipped a letter detailing the abuse to the
mailman, who notified child protective services. The police raided the
family=92s rural Aguanga home in 1999 and freed the family. The case
took 10 years to get to trial because of legal maneuvers by Muhummed."




 
Date: 14 Feb 2009 01:19:54
From: Pepe Papon
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:21:42 -0800 (PST), funky cold medina
<kellywong74@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Exterminate the brute.

I'd prefer a bit of cruel and unusual punishment.

>---
>
>http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/mansa-musa-muhu.html
>
>
>"Mansa Musa Muhummed, who beat, tortured and starved his children for
>decades, was sentenced to seven life terms in prison today by a judge
>in Murrieta who said the manís "reign of terror" against his family
>merited the harsh sentence.
>
>"Mr. Muhummed showed no remorse and accepted no responsibility for his
>twisted behavior, and the court is sending the strongest message
>possible," Riverside County Superior Court Judge F. Paul Dickerson III
>said.
>
>Some of Muhummedís 19 children urged the court to show no mercy to
>their father because he showed no mercy to them. "Iím very afraid of
>him, please donít let him ever get out of jail," said Sharon Boddie,
>who was locked up in a dark garage and starved by her father. When
>police found her, she was 18 and weighed 48 pounds. "I still have
>nightmares about him,Ē she told the judge. ďParents are supposed to
>protect their children, not abuse them.Ē
>
>During the trial, family members testified that Muhummed locked them
>in their home, hanged them from the ceiling and beat them, made them
>eat their own feces and vomit, and routinely hit them with boat oars,
>hoses and electric cords. He also had three wives.
>
>One of his wives finally slipped a letter detailing the abuse to the
>mailman, who notified child protective services. The police raided the
>familyís rural Aguanga home in 1999 and freed the family. The case
>took 10 years to get to trial because of legal maneuvers by Muhummed."


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 22:32:11
From: da pickle no spam
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
On Feb 13, 10:04=A0pm, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net >
wrote:
> "funky cold medina" <kellywon...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5ab03c9c-9157-493c-a7cb-
>
> <snip article>
>
> One of his wives finally slipped a letter detailing the abuse to the
> mailman, who notified child protective services. The police raided the
> family's rural Aguanga home in 1999 and freed the family. The case
> took 10 years to get to trial because of legal maneuvers by Muhummed."
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--=AD----------
>
> Medina, unless you know more about this case than can be seen from the
> article, I have no idea why you would think this merits such a harsh
> sentence. =A0It doesn't even say what the exact charges were. =A0There ha=
s to be
> some crime, the state cannot just step in to correct family matters that =
do
> not amount to an actual crime, just because it may seem a little out of t=
he
> ordinary when compared to other families. =A0I too was kept in dark close=
ts
> for the longest of times when I was young, but I got over it. =A0I can lo=
ok
> back on those years now since I am an adult, and see the justification my
> parents had because it was usually when my parents had company over, mayb=
e
> to play bridge, and how else were they to control me and keep me from
> embarrassing then with some of my outbursts. =A0Sure, sometimes I had to =
stay
> in there long after the bridge games were over and company had already le=
ft,
> but I am past that now and with no emotional scarring. =A0Now that I am a
> parent I can more understand these things, but of course was quite resent=
ful
> when I was young. =A0Maybe these kids in the article will look back with
> regret someday for testifying against their own flesh and blood. =A0I'm s=
ure
> their father must have done something right once in awhile. =A0Somebody m=
ust
> have clothed and fed them, even the girl who was only 48 pounds must have
> eaten occassionally. =A0Don't be so quick to judge other people when you =
don't
> know the circumstances. =A0Most of us grow up and get over these little i=
ssues
> we had as children and become normal adults functioning in an increasingl=
y
> complex world and without any signs of being disturbed. =A0I know I did.
>
> -Paul Popinjay

Jesus, you are a fucking idiot.


 
Date: 13 Feb 2009 22:04:03
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
"funky cold medina" <kellywong74@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:5ab03c9c-9157-493c-a7cb-

<snip article >

One of his wives finally slipped a letter detailing the abuse to the
mailman, who notified child protective services. The police raided the
family's rural Aguanga home in 1999 and freed the family. The case
took 10 years to get to trial because of legal maneuvers by Muhummed."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Medina, unless you know more about this case than can be seen from the
article, I have no idea why you would think this merits such a harsh
sentence. It doesn't even say what the exact charges were. There has to be
some crime, the state cannot just step in to correct family matters that do
not amount to an actual crime, just because it may seem a little out of the
ordinary when compared to other families. I too was kept in dark closets
for the longest of times when I was young, but I got over it. I can look
back on those years now since I am an adult, and see the justification my
parents had because it was usually when my parents had company over, maybe
to play bridge, and how else were they to control me and keep me from
embarrassing then with some of my outbursts. Sure, sometimes I had to stay
in there long after the bridge games were over and company had already left,
but I am past that now and with no emotional scarring. Now that I am a
parent I can more understand these things, but of course was quite resentful
when I was young. Maybe these kids in the article will look back with
regret someday for testifying against their own flesh and blood. I'm sure
their father must have done something right once in awhile. Somebody must
have clothed and fed them, even the girl who was only 48 pounds must have
eaten occassionally. Don't be so quick to judge other people when you don't
know the circumstances. Most of us grow up and get over these little issues
we had as children and become normal adults functioning in an increasingly
complex world and without any signs of being disturbed. I know I did.

-Paul Popinjay





  
Date: 14 Feb 2009 08:14:57
From: mary in vegas
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
On Feb 13 2009 10:04 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> "funky cold medina" <kellywong74@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5ab03c9c-9157-493c-a7cb-
>
> <snip article>
>
> One of his wives finally slipped a letter detailing the abuse to the
> mailman, who notified child protective services. The police raided the
> family's rural Aguanga home in 1999 and freed the family. The case
> took 10 years to get to trial because of legal maneuvers by Muhummed."
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Medina, unless you know more about this case than can be seen from the
> article, I have no idea why you would think this merits such a harsh
> sentence. It doesn't even say what the exact charges were. There has to be
> some crime, the state cannot just step in to correct family matters that do
> not amount to an actual crime, just because it may seem a little out of the
> ordinary when compared to other families. I too was kept in dark closets
> for the longest of times when I was young, but I got over it. I can look
> back on those years now since I am an adult, and see the justification my
> parents had because it was usually when my parents had company over, maybe
> to play bridge, and how else were they to control me and keep me from
> embarrassing then with some of my outbursts. Sure, sometimes I had to stay
> in there long after the bridge games were over and company had already left,
> but I am past that now and with no emotional scarring. Now that I am a
> parent I can more understand these things, but of course was quite resentful
> when I was young. Maybe these kids in the article will look back with
> regret someday for testifying against their own flesh and blood. I'm sure
> their father must have done something right once in awhile. Somebody must
> have clothed and fed them, even the girl who was only 48 pounds must have
> eaten occassionally. Don't be so quick to judge other people when you don't
> know the circumstances. Most of us grow up and get over these little issues
> we had as children and become normal adults functioning in an increasingly
> complex world and without any signs of being disturbed. I know I did.
>
> -Paul Popinjay

you must be pretty bored today paul...because you really are beyond
the pale with
this.

mary in vegas

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Date: 14 Feb 2009 10:28:42
From: da pickle
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
"mary in vegas"

> you must be pretty bored today paul...because you
> really are beyond the pale with this.
>
> mary in vegas

Paul does troll much better than sarchasm.

And when he specifically posts a disclaimer that a post is to be taken
seriously, he is often dead on.




    
Date: 14 Feb 2009 10:57:41
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:28:42 -0600, "da pickle"
<jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com > wrote:

>"mary in vegas"
>
>> you must be pretty bored today paul...because you
>> really are beyond the pale with this.
>>
>> mary in vegas
>
>Paul does troll much better than sarchasm.
>
>And when he specifically posts a disclaimer that a post is to be taken
>seriously, he is often dead on.
>

Maybe he only needs a little reminder.

"Sarcasm is your friend. Don't abuse it."


     
Date: 14 Feb 2009 09:16:57
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: I used to be against the death penalty in all cases
"FL Turbo" <noemail@notime.com > wrote in message
news:bstdp4pufsqvjp63uctjlcg1e9r5dv0s2h@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:28:42 -0600, "da pickle"
> <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"mary in vegas"
>>
>>> you must be pretty bored today paul...because you
>>> really are beyond the pale with this.
>>>
>>> mary in vegas
>>
>>Paul does troll much better than sarchasm.
>>
>>And when he specifically posts a disclaimer that a post is to be taken
>>seriously, he is often dead on.
>>
>
> Maybe he only needs a little reminder.
>
> "Sarcasm is your friend. Don't abuse it."


Maybe Pickle and Mary do not play bridge.