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Date: 29 Dec 2008 09:13:56
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
I've been getting a lot of discount offers from Vegas hotels lately. As the
following article indicates, now might be a good time to book that Vegas
poker trip:


"Recession makes finding deals in Las Vegas a better gamble

Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:28 AM
By Bill Ordine

The Philadelphia Inquirer

After riding a winning streak for the better part of two decades, Las Vegas
finds itself in the sort of shape usually reserved for the hapless gamblers
who leave town with empty wallets.

The recession has amounted to one long roll of snake eyes for the city's
casino industry, as every measurable tourism indicator -- visitation, room
occupancy and rates, and gaming revenue -- has fallen sharply. Major
projects such as Echelon, a $4.8 billion casino-resort complex being built
on the site of the old Stardust casino-hotel, have been halted.

The silver lining for travelers is that Vegas has once again become
something of the bargain it was 15 or 20 years ago.

A year ago, room rates at the Strip's luxury hotels were routinely $200 to
$400 a night. By contrast, the average room rate in September was $112.58,
down 21 percent from a year ago; the October average of $115.68 was down
14.3 percent.

While room rates are always a moving target and climb higher on weekends and
holidays, the MGM Grand recently had 13 January nights available for a $70
rate that includes a two-for-one buffet and $10 in free casino play.

A number of hotels, many of them high-end, have been offering a third night
free when guests pay for two nights. And casinos are packaging rooms with
meals, shows, shopping and spas. Hotels offering the free nights include the
MGM Grand Signature condos, Monte Carlo, Luxor and New York New York.

For example, the Venetian, with some of the most sumptuous rooms in Vegas,
has been offering a midweek rate of $119 -- far below prices of the past few
years -- and is throwing in a $25 casino credit, two-for-ones for drinks at
one of its fancy bars, a gondola ride and admission to Madame Tussauds' wax
museum.

Conditions have been placed on all of these promotions, some more
restrictive than others, so visitors who hope to take advantage of these
deals need to understand the terms and ask questions. But, generally, these
all seem to be remarkably favorable deals.

Not surprisingly, showrooms also are having a tough time filling their
seats, and that means tickets for many top shows are available at the
discount booths along the Strip.

A handful of the most popular shows can still avoid discounting -- Cher and
the Broadway musical Jersey Boys, to name a couple -- but almost everything
else can be seen at a discount if you aren't picky about seat location and
times.

In fact, if you're flexible, you probably won't have to pay full

price for anything in Las Vegas for a while."



Irish Mike






 
Date: 29 Dec 2008 18:56:43
From: Deadmoney Walking
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
On Dec 29, 9:13=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> I've been getting a lot of discount offers from Vegas hotels lately. =A0A=
s the
> following article indicates, now might be a good time to book that Vegas
> poker trip:
>
> "Recession makes finding deals in Las Vegas a better gamble
>
> Sunday, =A0December 28, 2008 3:28 AM
> By Bill Ordine
>
> The Philadelphia Inquirer
>
> After riding a winning streak for the better part of two decades, Las Veg=
as
> finds itself in the sort of shape usually reserved for the hapless gamble=
rs
> who leave town with empty wallets.
>
> The recession has amounted to one long roll of snake eyes for the city's
> casino industry, as every measurable tourism indicator -- visitation, roo=
m
> occupancy and rates, and gaming revenue -- has fallen sharply. Major
> projects such as Echelon, a $4.8 billion casino-resort complex being buil=
t
> on the site of the old Stardust casino-hotel, have been halted.
>
> The silver lining for travelers is that Vegas has once again become
> something of the bargain it was 15 or 20 years ago.
>
> A year ago, room rates at the Strip's luxury hotels were routinely $200 t=
o
> $400 a night. By contrast, the average room rate in September was $112.58=
,
> down 21 percent from a year ago; the October average of $115.68 was down
> 14.3 percent.
>
> While room rates are always a moving target and climb higher on weekends =
and
> holidays, the MGM Grand recently had 13 January nights available for a $7=
0
> rate that includes a two-for-one buffet and $10 in free casino play.
>
> A number of hotels, many of them high-end, have been offering a third nig=
ht
> free when guests pay for two nights. And casinos are packaging rooms with
> meals, shows, shopping and spas. Hotels offering the free nights include =
the
> MGM Grand Signature condos, Monte Carlo, Luxor and New York New York.
>
> For example, the Venetian, with some of the most sumptuous rooms in Vegas=
,
> has been offering a midweek rate of $119 -- far below prices of the past =
few
> years -- and is throwing in a $25 casino credit, two-for-ones for drinks =
at
> one of its fancy bars, a gondola ride and admission to Madame Tussauds' w=
ax
> museum.
>
> Conditions have been placed on all of these promotions, some more
> restrictive than others, so visitors who hope to take advantage of these
> deals need to understand the terms and ask questions. But, generally, the=
se
> all seem to be remarkably favorable deals.
>
> Not surprisingly, showrooms also are having a tough time filling their
> seats, and that means tickets for many top shows are available at the
> discount booths along the Strip.
>
> A handful of the most popular shows can still avoid discounting -- Cher a=
nd
> the Broadway musical Jersey Boys, to name a couple -- but almost everythi=
ng
> else can be seen at a discount if you aren't picky about seat location an=
d
> times.
>
> In fact, if you're flexible, you probably won't have to pay full
>
> price for anything in Las Vegas for a while."
>
> Irish Mike

that doesn't tell you the quality of the games, but they should be
okay in the holiday week. I thought the New Years games last year
were fine except for a few nitty 1/2 tables.



 
Date: 29 Dec 2008 12:53:32
From:
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
I have some friends who just got back from Vegas. The main report was
that The Hard Rock's new room is very nice, but all they can manage to
spread is 1/2 NL with some 2/5 thrown in every now and then (TVSM
syndrome I assume). The Venetian is keeping a pretty full room with a
vartiety of games. (This was all during the week before Chirstmas -
absolute slowest time of the year). Oh yeah - they looked at the
machines at The Excalibur and said that they only had two tables going
- one with a $0.50/$1 NL game and is was eerily quiet in the room.

Croupe


  
Date: 29 Dec 2008 18:57:25
From: Deadmoney Walking
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
On Dec 29, 3:53=A0pm, cccro...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have some friends who just got back from Vegas. =A0The main report was
> that The Hard Rock's new room is very nice, but all they can manage to
> spread is 1/2 NL with some 2/5 thrown in every now and then (TVSM
> syndrome I assume). =A0The Venetian is keeping a pretty full room with a
> vartiety of games. =A0(This was all during the week before Chirstmas -
> absolute slowest time of the year). =A0Oh yeah - they looked at the
> machines at The Excalibur and said that they only had two tables going
> - one with a $0.50/$1 NL game and is was eerily quiet in the room.
>
> Croupe

Hard Rock sounds nice in the reviews, but they picked a great time to
open a poker room when that town needs to be closing them down.


 
Date: 29 Dec 2008 12:24:07
From:
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip

You have a few favorite web sites that track the deals?

AJ


  
Date: 29 Dec 2008 11:22:51
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
<AJ@Texas.net > wrote in message
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>
> You have a few favorite web sites that track the deals?
>
> AJ


I just ran a search at Vegas.com for next Sunday and Monday. Here are the
top few listings, excluding Primm.

Palace Station $19.98

Wild West Station $19.98

Texas Station $22.38

Boulder Station $23.98

Fiesta Henderson $23.98

Arizona Charlie's - Boulder $25.00

Stratosphere Tower - $26.00

I know I checked a couple weeks ago and I saw Gold Coast had packages for
those dates at $25 a night for two nights, and it included something like
$20 in slot play and $20 in dining credit. (I think) Just now I looked and
there is no mention of the extras.

-PP




   
Date: 29 Dec 2008 12:34:37
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
> I know I checked a couple weeks ago and I saw Gold Coast had packages for
> those dates at $25 a night for two nights, and it included something like
> $20 in slot play and $20 in dining credit. (I think) Just now I looked and
> there is no mention of the extras.
>
> -PP

SOME floor manager YOU are. You do not even mention the Roadhouse! Last
I saw you can get a room, a lap dance, free slot play for 2 hours, free
buffet and a personal handshake from PeePee for 3.95 a night! And they
even said they would waive that charge and comp the room a 100% if you
wear a PeePee sucks T-Shirt and you smack him upside his bald head!

Now do not get mad at me about that last sentence! That came from the
Hotel manager.

========================================
You must not think me necessarily foolish because I am facetious,
nor will I consider you necessarily wise because you are grave.
========
BOOM byae
John

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Date: 29 Dec 2008 13:12:27
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
"John_Brian_K" <a7ecb57@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:tron26xvvf.ln2@recgroups.com...

>
> SOME floor manager YOU are. You do not even mention the Roadhouse! Last
> I saw you can get a room, a lap dance, free slot play for 2 hours, free
> buffet and a personal handshake from PeePee for 3.95 a night! And they
> even said they would waive that charge and comp the room a 100% if you
> wear a PeePee sucks T-Shirt and you smack him upside his bald head!
>
> Now do not get mad at me about that last sentence! That came from the
> Hotel manager.
>

I'm NOT bald!




     
Date: 29 Dec 2008 16:32:25
From: Robert Ladd
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip

"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:a3b6l.4030$jZ1.2859@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
> "John_Brian_K" <a7ecb57@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:tron26xvvf.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
>>
>> SOME floor manager YOU are. You do not even mention the Roadhouse! Last
>> I saw you can get a room, a lap dance, free slot play for 2 hours, free
>> buffet and a personal handshake from PeePee for 3.95 a night! And they
>> even said they would waive that charge and comp the room a 100% if you
>> wear a PeePee sucks T-Shirt and you smack him upside his bald head!
>>
>> Now do not get mad at me about that last sentence! That came from the
>> Hotel manager.
>>
>
> I'm NOT bald!

Bald..ing.

Robert Ladd




      
Date: 29 Dec 2008 15:43:15
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
"Robert Ladd" <rladd5@cox.net > wrote in message
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>

>
> Bald..ing.
>


I'm NOT speaking with you right now!




       
Date: 29 Dec 2008 20:48:59
From: Robert Ladd
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip

"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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> "Robert Ladd" <rladd5@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:gjbmm2$kdb$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>
>
>>
>> Bald..ing.
>>
>
>
> I'm NOT speaking with you right now!
>

Of course you are. I'm still your bestest atheist friend, even if you won't
admit it. We're kindred spirits because we know about the role of the CFR
and the road they're leading us down.

Robert Ladd




        
Date: 29 Dec 2008 19:55:39
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
"Robert Ladd" <rladd5@cox.net > wrote in message
news:gjc5n2$vth$1@news.motzarella.org...
>

>>
>> I'm NOT speaking with you right now!
>>
>
> Of course you are. I'm still your bestest atheist friend, even if you
> won't admit it. We're kindred spirits because we know about the role of
> the CFR and the road they're leading us down.
>
> Robert Ladd


la la la, I can't hear you.




   
Date: 29 Dec 2008 11:39:05
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Good time for a Vegas poker trip
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
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>
> I know I checked a couple weeks ago and I saw Gold Coast had packages for
> those dates at $25 a night for two nights, and it included something like
> $20 in slot play and $20 in dining credit. (I think) Just now I looked
> and there is no mention of the extras.
>

Here's Sun Coast. And Sun Coast is a NICE place!

$49 a night for two nights minimum, plus:

Stay includes:
$20 per stay free slot play or match play
$20 per stay food credit valid at St. Tropez Buffet, Cafe Siena, Bagel Cafe,
Salvatore's, Senor Miguel's or the Oyster Bar.