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Date: 08 Dec 2008 10:44:52
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: FTP -poker tracker
Does anyone have 100k plus hand on ftp and stars- I just cant seem to beat
them some one is always seem to be getting lucky and its not me- im not
ready to admit its riggedbut just wanted
to see if anyone here had proof that there % are what they should be -
thanks

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Date: 09 Dec 2008 01:20:05
From: Flushed
Subject: Re: FTP -poker tracker
If I filter 35k of limit hands ( not in blinds ) accross multiple sites
assuming that I would play only the Pokerroom +EV hands from their extremely
large database of hands played by their players, I get a win rate of about
1/3 BB per hand played ( playing about 20% of hands dealt....less early and
more late of course ).

Running the same filter for limit hands played ( not in blinds ) on FTP,
about 7.5K, I again get results of about 1/3 BB per hand.

Running the same filter and condidtions on PS over 11.6K hands results in
slightly higher win rate of .41 BB per hand.

Overall, the results seem very similar over multiple sites. If you are
interested in checking out their EV stats by hand and position, go to the
Pokerroom web site.

My filter ignored some of the more marginal +EV hands since they are
essentially break even and included:
pairs: 55+
suited connectors: T9s+
unsuited connectors: QJo+
1 gap suited: J9s+
1 gap off: KJo+
2 gap suited: Q9s+
2 gap off: KTo+
Axs: A6s+
Axo: ATo+
Kxs: K8s+

The filter did not take into consideration that some of these should only be
played under the right conditions ( late position, multiple pots, unraised
pots, etc. ) though I did consider some of these criteria ( albeit
imperfectly ) in the actual play. This may correspond with the actual
Pokerroom conditions pretty well though since the stats are accross all
players there...good, bad and indifferent.



"DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearballo@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> Does anyone have 100k plus hand on ftp and stars- I just cant seem to beat
> them some one is always seem to be getting lucky and its not me- im not
> ready to admit its riggedbut just wanted
> to see if anyone here had proof that there % are what they should be -
> thanks
>
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Date: 09 Dec 2008 01:49:39
From: Flushed
Subject: Re: FTP -poker tracker

"Flushed" <dorsetvalley@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:9Jj%k.599$c35.132@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> If I filter 35k of limit hands ( not in blinds ) accross multiple sites
> assuming that I would play only the Pokerroom +EV hands from their
> extremely large database of hands played by their players, I get a win
> rate of about

For those of you who wish to investigate the utility of the Pokerroom school
stats, I suggest the following exercise:

Review the PR stats against your stats for limit games and identify those
starting hands where your experienced EV is significantly worse than the EV
of that hand in their DB.

Use Poker Academy or Wilson's software to deal yourself a whole lot of hands
of that starting combination until your play of it improves to at least the
level of the PR stats. Adjust your play of it based on position, number in
the pot, raised/unraised, how far to go with it under varying flop
conditions, etc. I think your game will improve.




 
Date: 08 Dec 2008 15:33:38
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: FTP -poker tracker
On Dec 8 2008 12:44 PM, DonkeyBanAA wrote:

> Does anyone have 100k plus hand on ftp and stars- I just cant seem to beat
> them some one is always seem to be getting lucky and its not me- im not
> ready to admit its riggedbut just wanted
> to see if anyone here had proof that there % are what they should be -
> thanks

I have over 1mil hands of PLO ranging from 50c/1 to 2/4, but mostly 50c/1,
all 6 handed, on fulltilt. I sent them to jp a while back but not sure if
he's doing anything with them.

If anyone is interested in using these to prove whatever they want about
fulltilt, I'd be happy to make arrangements to get them to you.

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Date: 08 Dec 2008 13:33:20
From: number6
Subject: Re: FTP -poker tracker
On Dec 8, 1:44=A0pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Does anyone have 100k plus hand on ftp and stars- I just cant seem to bea=
t
> them some one is always seem to be getting lucky and its not me- im not
> ready to admit its riggedbut just wanted
> to see if anyone here had proof that there % are what they should be -
> thanks
>

A while ago ... I kept hand histories because I had the impression
that a same suited flop occured on FullTilt more than the average
expected ...
I probably logged 100 K plus hands mostly on play money just to see
flops and found that the same suit flopped 8.2 % of the time instead
of the 5 % expected ...
I checked out other anamolies that people complained about ... and
found none ... Aces appearing on the flop for instance was almost
exactly the expected value ...
as did pairs ...
I know not where that data is now unfortunately ...





 
Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:47:23
From:
Subject: Re: FTP -poker tracker
On Dec 8, 12:44=A0pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Does anyone have 100k plus hand on ftp and stars- I just cant seem to bea=
t
> them some one is always seem to be getting lucky and its not me- im not
> ready to admit its riggedbut just wanted
> to see if anyone here had proof that there % are what they should be -
> thanks
>
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They've got some here:
http://thepokermission.blogspot.com/


 
Date: 08 Dec 2008 11:00:02
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: FTP -poker tracker
> Does anyone have 100k plus hand on ftp and stars- I just cant seem to beat
> them some one is always seem to be getting lucky and its not me- im not
> ready to admit its riggedbut just wanted
> to see if anyone here had proof that there % are what they should be -
> thanks

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