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Date: 18 Jan 2009 21:26:39
From: Clave
Subject: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.

Jim






 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 19:10:49
From: OrangeSFO
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
Clean as a whistle

Why is it even up for question?


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 12:58:39
From: James L. Hankins
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?

"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message
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> Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.
>
> Jim



Looked clean to me. There was helmet-to-helment but I didn't see anything
intentional there or any way either player could have stopped the contact at
the speed they were going.




  
Date: 19 Jan 2009 18:53:58
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
"James L. Hankins" <jhankins5@cox.net > wrote in message
news:B34dl.42329$g23.33913@newsfe01.iad...
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:qqKdnXq2RKCPkunUnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@cablespeedmi.com...
>> Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.
>>
>> Jim
>
>
>
> Looked clean to me. There was helmet-to-helment but I didn't see anything
> intentional there or any way either player could have stopped the contact
> at the speed they were going.

After watching the second hundred times, I agree -- the helmet-to-helmet was
incidental.

Jim




 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:04:16
From: richlp
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 18, 9:47=A0pm, dave_1 <david_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 19, 12:26=A0am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Curious how opinion is running in here. =A0I'm kind of on the fence mys=
elf.
>
> > Jim
>
> looked like a helmet to helmet shot to me..so was limas sweeds
> block..add that to the bogus roughing the punter call and the ravens
> got hosed big time by the refs..hopefully the NFL will dole out some
> big fines

Spoken like a true fan(atic)


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 08:58:11
From:
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 18, 11:47=A0pm, dave_1 <david_...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 19, 12:26=A0am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Curious how opinion is running in here. =A0I'm kind of on the fence mys=
elf.
>
> > Jim
>
> looked like a helmet to helmet shot to me..so was limas sweeds
> block..add that to the bogus roughing the punter call and the ravens
> got hosed big time by the refs..hopefully the NFL will dole out some
> big fines

The roughing the punter call was BS, but it cost the Ravens no
points. What about the BS "no catch" call on Santonio Holmes long TD
reception. He catches the ball (both feet on the ground), takes a
step and then dives for the end zone and the ball squiggles out when
he hits the ground and the referee says that he "did not maintain
possession throughout the catch". What's next - the guy takes a two
yard pass, runs 15 yards and the ball pops out when he gets tackled -
No Catch. That cost the Steelers 4 points.

My prediction - no fines for anyone.

Croupe


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 08:51:07
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
> Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.
>
> Jim

I may be wrong on this (I was switching between a few different channels
yesterday during the game) but there was not a big deal made of the hit
was there?

I personally winced when I saw it and winced again during the replay. It
was not a dirty hit. McGahee lowered his head. He had something to do
with 'where' the helmet got hit. If he was flat out running and got
blindsided with a hit helmet to helmet then I can see, but he lowered his
head and it ended helmet to helmet.

At first I thought holy crap that was helmet to helmet then I saw it in
slow mo and understood why the flag was not thrown. What a bang up game.
Both games were awesome, but the Cards game deserves some more love. What
a great fucking game that was.

19 unanswered points in the second half and when it mattered they went
down the field. The kicking team for Philly deserves a lashing for that
debacle last night. HOLY crap!

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 07:01:54
From: Dave the Clueless
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 19, 12:26=A0am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com >
wrote:
> Curious how opinion is running in here. =A0I'm kind of on the fence mysel=
f.
>
> Jim

Clean. Unfortunate, but clean. Hopefully he is OK.


 
Date: 19 Jan 2009 01:05:37
From: Kingo Gondo
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
Looks like he was trying to use his shoulder and McGahee lowered his head
before he got there. This shit is happening at such speed that to expect the
precise application of force at all times is utterly moronic.



  
Date: 19 Jan 2009 06:40:11
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 19 2009 12:05 AM, Kingo Gondo wrote:

> Looks like he was trying to use his shoulder and McGahee lowered his head
> before he got there. This shit is happening at such speed that to expect the
> precise application of force at all times is utterly moronic.

WOULDNT A FOOTBALL GAME BE THE EXACT TIME TO EXPECT THE "PRECISE
APPLICATION OF FORCE?"


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Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:16:54
From: Kingo Gondo
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?

"FangBanger" <a29bed1@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
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> On Jan 19 2009 12:05 AM, Kingo Gondo wrote:
>
>> Looks like he was trying to use his shoulder and McGahee lowered his head
>> before he got there. This shit is happening at such speed that to expect
>> the
>> precise application of force at all times is utterly moronic.
>
> WOULDNT A FOOTBALL GAME BE THE EXACT TIME TO EXPECT THE "PRECISE
> APPLICATION OF FORCE?"

Only if you are an idiot. Did you ever play, even at lame speed?



 
Date: 18 Jan 2009 21:47:21
From: dave_1
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 19, 12:26=A0am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com >
wrote:
> Curious how opinion is running in here. =A0I'm kind of on the fence mysel=
f.
>
> Jim

looked like a helmet to helmet shot to me..so was limas sweeds
block..add that to the bogus roughing the punter call and the ravens
got hosed big time by the refs..hopefully the NFL will dole out some
big fines


 
Date: 18 Jan 2009 21:41:23
From: IHeartWuzzy
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 19 2009 12:26 AM, Clave wrote:

> Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.
>
> Jim

Clean hit... period.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 10:21:23
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 19 2009 12:41 AM, IHeartWuzzy wrote:

> On Jan 19 2009 12:26 AM, Clave wrote:
>
> > Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Clean hit... period.

Agree. Regrettable, but clean.

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Date: 19 Jan 2009 18:52:26
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
"FellKnight" <jordandevenport@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> On Jan 19 2009 12:41 AM, IHeartWuzzy wrote:
>
>> On Jan 19 2009 12:26 AM, Clave wrote:
>>
>> > Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence
>> > myself.
>> >
>> > Jim
>>
>> Clean hit... period.
>
> Agree. Regrettable, but clean.

I hear they released him with a clean bill today.

Jim




   
Date: 19 Jan 2009 12:49:11
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9CiicXmINE




    
Date: 19 Jan 2009 11:08:56
From: charrison100
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
On Jan 19 2009 1:49 PM, Susan wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9CiicXmINE

I don;t understand Clark's hand position. He was not going for a wrapped
arms tackle He was trying to put his shoulder through McGahee. His hands
are clasped and his left seems to be pushing the right in and upward
motion.

Not good for tackling but good for damaging and causing fumbles.

the hit IMO was clean and brutal.

Chris

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Date: 18 Jan 2009 22:05:29
From: RazzO
Subject: Re: Clark's Hit on McGahee -- Clean or Dirty?
I'm a huge Steelers fan.
The hit was illegal. Played it over and over. The helmet hit first.


GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!

(heh, DaVoice)


On Jan 18 2009 9:41 PM, IHeartWuzzy wrote:

> > Curious how opinion is running in here. I'm kind of on the fence myself.
> >



RazzO
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