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Date: 31 Jan 2009 10:36:49
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on
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I just started reading a new book called: Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/1596915579 The author, Russ Baker, states that George Bush received a memo dated November 29,1963 from FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, with a heading ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY. You can see the document here: http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm Is the document real or a fake?
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 09:17:54
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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On Feb 7, 9:05=A0pm, A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo > wrote: > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:53:59 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire > > <moon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Feb 7, 8:26=A0pm, A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo> wrote: > >> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:20:39 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire > > >> <moon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John > >> >Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't > >> >buy into that one. > > >> It's not hard to verify. =A0It's a matter of public record. > > >Really? What other sources are you relying on? Can you post some links? > > Yeah it's Wikipedia but it's citing contemporary news articles, which > nobody has questioned the accuracy of. =A0It's not like the Houston Post > or the Associated Press are hives of kookery. Why aren't you questioning the accuracy? Anyone can site sources so that doesn't mean it's true. I can't accept the relationship between the two families as true unless I can verify it with other sources and Wikipedia isn't doing that.
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 17:53:59
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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On Feb 7, 8:26=A0pm, A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo > wrote: > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:20:39 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire > > <moon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John > >Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't > >buy into that one. > > It's not hard to verify. =A0It's a matter of public record. Really? What other sources are you relying on? Can you post some links?
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 21:05:01
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:53:59 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire <moone99@gmail.com > wrote: >On Feb 7, 8:26 pm, A Man Beaten by Jacks <nob...@fool.foo> wrote: >> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:20:39 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire >> >> <moon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John >> >Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't >> >buy into that one. >> >> It's not hard to verify. It's a matter of public record. > >Really? What other sources are you relying on? Can you post some links? Yeah it's Wikipedia but it's citing contemporary news articles, which nobody has questioned the accuracy of. It's not like the Houston Post or the Associated Press are hives of kookery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.#Bush-Hinckley_family_connections Bush-Hinckley family connections According to the March 31, 1981, edition of the Houston Post, and reported by AP, UPI, NBC News and Newsweek, Hinckley is the son of one of George H.W. Bush's political and financial supporters in his 1980 presidential primary campaign against Ronald Reagan; John Hinckley Jr.'s elder brother, Scott Hinckley, and Vice President Bush's son Neil Bush had a dinner appointment scheduled for the next day.[4] Associated Press published the following short note on March 31, 1981: "The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice-President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign ... Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr. was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the Vice-President's sons ... The Houston Post said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice-president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corporation, for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Company of Indiana. In 1978, Neil Bush served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the Vice-President's eldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock, Texas, throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980."
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 17:20:39
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't buy into that one. I did find a very interesting video where Bush slanders JFK in a bad joke. The video does reveal a certain disdain for JFK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nLCbwH9WLA&feature=related Maybe Irish Mike will tell us if he thinks the document I linked to in the first post is accurate. Are you avoiding that one Irish Mike?
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Date: 08 Feb 2009 11:43:35
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:20:39 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire <moone99@gmail.com > wrote: >Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John >Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't >buy into that one. > The Hinckley family was wealthy, having made a lot of oil money. They were heavily involved in Repo politics, and made large contributions to Bush the Elder's election campaign. That part is true. The bullshit part is where the Conspiracy Theorists infer that the attempt on Reagan's life was some big Conspiracy. Basically, the way Conspiracy Theories evolve is that they gather a batch of factoids together, add a few bogus factoids to the list, and then go on from there to infer a giant Conspiracy. The 911 Truthers are experts at that technique. >I did find a very interesting video where Bush slanders JFK in a bad >joke. The video does reveal a certain disdain for JFK. > I know that this might surprise you, but many people have had a certain disdain for JFK. Shocking, but true.
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 21:06:38
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Feb 7 2009 8:20 PM, Senator Millionaire wrote: > Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John > Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't > buy into that one. > > I did find a very interesting video where Bush slanders JFK in a bad > joke. The video does reveal a certain disdain for JFK. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nLCbwH9WLA&feature=related > > Maybe Irish Mike will tell us if he thinks the document I linked to in > the first post is accurate. Are you avoiding that one Irish Mike? O'Brien is a family name and my dad knows G1. I think your theory is acurate. Atheism is drawing dead ______________________________________________________________________ : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 20:26:48
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:20:39 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire <moone99@gmail.com > wrote: >Topset72, I have plenty of doubt about that story you posted. John >Hinckley's brother was friends with the Bush family? Sorry, I can't >buy into that one. It's not hard to verify. It's a matter of public record.
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Date: 07 Feb 2009 13:44:18
From: topset72
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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Another interesting historical nugget that is not widely known about the Bushes (beside the fact that they got much of their money from the Nazis) is that the Bushes were good friends with the Hinkley family. Yes the family that produced John Hinckley - the guy who tried to assasinate Reagan. HOUSTON Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting The Associated Press Domestic News March 31, 1981, Tuesday, PM cycle The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign, the Houston Post reported today. The newspaper said in a copyright story, Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons. The newspaper said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana. In 1978, Neil served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the vice president's oldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980. On Monday, Neil Bush said he did not know if he had ever met 25-year- old John Hinckley. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= =AD----- >From what I know and I've heard, they (the Hinckleys) are a very nice family and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign." SHARON BUSH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= =AD----- "I have no idea," he said. "I don't recognize any pictures of him. I just wish I could see a better picture of him. Sharon Bush, Neil's wife, said Scott Hinckley was coming to their house as a date of a girl friend of hers. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxxx "A couple months later, Hinckley Jr. shot Reagan, and Bush Sr. very nearly did become president at that time, after all. Curiously, only one time was it announced on the news about the connections between the Bush and Hinckley families: An almost bewildered John Chancellor on NBC Nightly News reported "the bizarre coincidence" that Vice President Bush's son, Neil, and Scott Hinckley had dinner plans for March 31, 1981 -- now cancelled, of course. [But even Chancellor failed to mention the close friendship between the the assassin's father and Vice President Bush--let alone the rest of the corporate media.]" http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/HinckleyAndBush.htm Topset72
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Date: 05 Feb 2009 00:06:19
From: Deadmoney Walking
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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On Jan 31, 1:36=A0pm, Senator Millionaire <moon...@gmail.com > wrote: > I just started reading a new book called: > > Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It > in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America > > http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/15... > > The author, Russ Baker, states that George Bush received a memo dated > November 29,1963 from FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, with a heading > ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY. > > You can see the document here: > > http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm > > Is the document real or a fake? I think this was after Madame Rosseau changed the numbers on the transmitter and killed off her research team to avoid the island smoke monster.
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Date: 04 Feb 2009 08:23:18
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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La Cosa, those videos have some interesting info in them. Thanks! Since it's still winter, Irish Mike may want to trade in his tin foil hat for an Infowars Knit Beanie Cap. They are only $14.95 and you can place your order now Irish Mike. http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/inknbecap.html
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Date: 04 Feb 2009 21:25:56
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Feb 4 2009 11:23 AM, Senator Millionaire wrote: > La Cosa, those videos have some interesting info in them. Thanks! > Since it's still winter, Irish Mike may want to trade in his tin foil > hat for an Infowars Knit Beanie Cap. They are only $14.95 and you can > place your order now Irish Mike. > > http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/inknbecap.html You're welcome. Atheism is drawing dead ------- : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 05 Feb 2009 05:36:16
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message news:4s9q56xqmc.ln2@recgroups.com... > On Feb 4 2009 11:23 AM, Senator Millionaire wrote: > >> La Cosa, those videos have some interesting info in them. Thanks! >> Since it's still winter, Irish Mike may want to trade in his tin foil >> hat for an Infowars Knit Beanie Cap. They are only $14.95 and you can >> place your order now Irish Mike. >> >> http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/inknbecap.html > You're welcome. > > Atheism is drawing dead I think it's been well established that Senator Millionaire get's a volume discount on tin foil hats. In fact, several large foil manufacturers are bidding to become his supplier even as we speak. However, it appears the online company, conspiracynuts.com has the inside track. Irish Mike
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 07:15:33
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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On Feb 2, 5:38=A0pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote: > > Every time I read one of these posts it pisses me off that I didn't buy > stock in a tin foil hat company. > > Irish Mike LOL! Irish Mike, are you trying to imply the document is a fake?
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Date: 02 Feb 2009 13:55:51
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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On Feb 2, 10:34=A0am, "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f4...@webnntp.invalid > wrote: > It's real. Bush sr has always maintained that it was written to another > guy who worked in the same building with the same name except the other > guy was a mail clerk. According to the book, the George Bush you're referring to was indeed a very low level employee of the CIA. Therefore, it's pretty obvious the Hoover document was not addressed to him so it must have been addressed to the former President. This document adds compelling drama to those JFK researchers who believe that the CIA was somehow involved with the Kennedy assassination.
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Date: 02 Feb 2009 17:38:38
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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"Senator Millionaire" <moone99@gmail.com > wrote in message news:ec3f07f3-910b-43f8-81d9-01a149fdf3fa@y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com... On Feb 2, 10:34 am, "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f4...@webnntp.invalid > wrote: > It's real. Bush sr has always maintained that it was written to another > guy who worked in the same building with the same name except the other > guy was a mail clerk. According to the book, the George Bush you're referring to was indeed a very low level employee of the CIA. Therefore, it's pretty obvious the Hoover document was not addressed to him so it must have been addressed to the former President. This document adds compelling drama to those JFK researchers who believe that the CIA was somehow involved with the Kennedy assassination. Every time I read one of these posts it pisses me off that I didn't buy stock in a tin foil hat company. Irish Mike
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 07:45:29
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Feb 2 2009 5:38 PM, Irish Mike wrote: > "Senator Millionaire" <moone99@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ec3f07f3-910b-43f8-81d9-01a149fdf3fa@y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 2, 10:34 am, "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f4...@webnntp.invalid> > wrote: > > It's real. Bush sr has always maintained that it was written to another > > guy who worked in the same building with the same name except the other > > guy was a mail clerk. > > According to the book, the George Bush you're referring to was indeed > a very low level employee of the CIA. Therefore, it's pretty obvious > the Hoover document was not addressed to him so it must have been > addressed to the former President. This document adds compelling drama > to those JFK researchers who believe that the CIA was somehow involved > with the Kennedy assassination. > > Every time I read one of these posts it pisses me off that I didn't buy > stock in a tin foil hat company. > > Irish Mike I dae you to watch this with an open mind. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4315024059102108031 Jones goes off at the end but just listen to what he points out and answer the questions he puts forth Atheism is drawing dead _____________________________________________________________________ RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
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Date: 03 Feb 2009 07:31:02
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Feb 2 2009 5:38 PM, Irish Mike wrote: > "Senator Millionaire" <moone99@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:ec3f07f3-910b-43f8-81d9-01a149fdf3fa@y23g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 2, 10:34 am, "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f4...@webnntp.invalid> > wrote: > > It's real. Bush sr has always maintained that it was written to another > > guy who worked in the same building with the same name except the other > > guy was a mail clerk. > > According to the book, the George Bush you're referring to was indeed > a very low level employee of the CIA. Therefore, it's pretty obvious > the Hoover document was not addressed to him so it must have been > addressed to the former President. This document adds compelling drama > to those JFK researchers who believe that the CIA was somehow involved > with the Kennedy assassination. > > Every time I read one of these posts it pisses me off that I didn't buy > stock in a tin foil hat company. > > Irish Mike Atheism is drawing dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLqjqTbIPU ________________________________________________________________________ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 02 Feb 2009 07:34:00
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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It's real. Bush sr has always maintained that it was written to another guy who worked in the same building with the same name except the other guy was a mail clerk. On Jan 31 2009 1:36 PM, Senator Millionaire wrote: > I just started reading a new book called: > > Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It > in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America > > http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/1596915579 > > The author, Russ Baker, states that George Bush received a memo dated > November 29,1963 from FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, with a heading > ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY. > > You can see the document here: > > http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm > > Is the document real or a fake? Atheism is drawing dead ________________________________________________________________________ * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com
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Date: 01 Feb 2009 08:21:51
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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I managed to get through the first quarter of the book and it's very interesting. George H.W. Bush never wrote an autobiography so this book offers a glimpse into his career. I could be wrong but it appears the document is accurate. When HW Bush was asked about the document, he explained that it must have been some one else named George Bush.
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Date: 31 Jan 2009 22:47:47
From: RazzO
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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I just spent an hour and a half reading the articles and links. I'm blown away. I have always believed that JFK ..well, I won't go into it. While I sort this out in my mind I wonder if this isn't the "January 21-22-23" stuff we would hear from 'Mr. 0bama'. The silence from the Group on your citing is deafening. Especially, from Mr. Ramashiva. On Jan 31 2009 10:36 AM, Senator Millionaire wrote: > I just started reading a new book called: > > Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It > in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America > > http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/1596915579 > > The author, Russ Baker, states that George Bush received a memo dated > November 29,1963 from FBI Director, J. Edgar Hoover, with a heading > ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY. > > You can see the document here: > > http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm > > Is the document real or a fake? RazzO (...) ----- : the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com
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Date: 31 Jan 2009 18:06:11
From: Senator Millionaire
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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Nobody reads books around here? I was told RGP had the most brilliant minds on the Internets.
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Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:30:55
From: Joe Long
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush
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Senator Millionaire wrote: > Nobody reads books around here? I was told RGP had the most brilliant > minds on the Internets. It does, but we're like undigested kernels of corn in a pile of shit. The shit that surrounds us makes it difficult to appreciate us. -- Joe Long aka ChipRider Somewhere on the Range
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Date: 31 Jan 2009 23:46:34
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Can Anyone Refute This Historical Document? It Was Sent to Bush on November 29, 1963.
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:06:11 -0800 (PST), Senator Millionaire <moone99@gmail.com > wrote: >Nobody reads books around here? I was told RGP had the most brilliant >minds on the Internets. November 29, 1963 ?? You couldn't even been a gleam in your daddy's eye back then, could you?
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