pokerfied.com
Promoting poker discussions.

Main
Date: 14 Dec 2008 12:02:22
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com






 
Date: 15 Dec 2008 08:14:26
From: $250giftcertificate
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
Cracked me up! Anybody play the Wii Fit game where you have to head
soccer balls? They kick shoes at you and you have to duck out of the
way. It's the first thing we thought of! An apt sendoff for
Chucklenuts.


 
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:28:42
From: thepixelfreak
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 12:02:22 -0800, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearballo@yahoo.com > said:

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com

In light of recent events..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duLds-TZMGw

Are we sure Bush isn't "The One?" e.g. Neo in the Matrix. Ironic
considering Bush and his band are "Neo-conservatives" See the video
below.

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/cmp/sfx-bullet_videos3.html

I'm hoping the youtube crowd splices the W's face on the 'dodging
bullets video'.

--

thepixelfreak



 
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:21:29
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why this is
funny.


"DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearballo@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:eb5g16x0ul.ln2@recgroups.com...
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com
>
>




  
Date: 15 Dec 2008 13:28:49
From: Kyle T. Jones
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
Susan, my dear, dear friend, there was this time, oh, 12/14/2008 4:21 PM
or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on Usenet:
> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why this is
> funny.
>

Cripes, Susan, yer always the first to claim the Libruls need to find
their sense of humor.

Cheers.


  
Date: 15 Dec 2008 06:29:48
From: Bob T.
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15, 2:36=A0am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net > wrote:
> "ChrisRobin" <a9db...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:2kgh16x66r.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 15 2008 1:16 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9db...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >>news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>
> >> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net>
> >> >> said:
>
> >> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> >> >> > million
>
> >> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>
> >> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I gues=
s
> >> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> >> > history."
>
> >> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. =A0Especially
> >> considering that more than a million were killed =A0just in the war he
> >> started
> >> with Iran. =A0But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for al=
l
> >> those
> >> Iraqis and Iraniansi.
>
> > First of all, Iran invaded Iraq. Not the other way around. This is
> > documented fact:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
>
> > Second, I think it's time you cited the source of your Iraqi death toll=
.
> > Bring it already.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you and Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did k=
ill
> around 2,000,000 people. =A0Of course it's hard to get an exact count giv=
en
> disappearances, sorting out all the bodies in the mass granves that have
> been found and not knowing how many more mass graves are yet to be
> discovered. =A0But the following is a rough estimate.
> "Saddam Hussein
> Full name Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti. AKA 'Great Uncle', AKA 'Lio=
n
> of Babylon', AKA 'Lion of Iraq', AKA 'Beast of Baghdad'.
>
> Country: Iraq.
>
> Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,00=
0
> Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during th=
e
> Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the
> Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis
> killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 t=
o
> as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliab=
le
> figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during
> Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,0=
00.
> (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 sugge=
st
> that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed cou=
ld
> be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because=
of
> international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. "

In other words, yes you are blaming Saddam for every casualty on both
sides of the Iran-Iraq War, even though Iran started the war and the
US supported Saddam during it. Idiot.

- Bob T.
>
> Irish Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:12:03
From: ramashiva
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14, 4:06=A0pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:0115ff42-ffcb-4c76-b0d7-b5d478b1dd55@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 3:58 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:697fba60-3c72-4f0c-8a08-11dff691b667@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com..=
.
> > On Dec 14, 3:45 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > >> I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
> > >Oh fuck you, Susan. There's no arguing about what's funny and what's
> > not. Either you thought it was funny or you didn't. End of story.
>
> > And I didn't
>
> > >I can already predict your usual passive-aggressive response --
> > >Oh I wasn't arguing about it, I just said I didn't see what was funny
> > about it.
>
> >> >William Coleman (ramashiva)
>
> >> well fuck me for having an opinion.
> >No, fuck you for making four posts expressing your opinion.
> >William Coleman =A0(ramashiva)
>
> 2 for you and NO opinion stated.

Are you saying I have not expressed my opinion on whether this was
funny in this thread? If so, I suggest you look at the very first
reply to the OP.


William Coleman (ramashiva)





  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:01:06
From: ramashiva
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14, 3:58=A0pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:697fba60-3c72-4f0c-8a08-11dff691b667@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 3:45 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >> I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
> >Oh fuck you, Susan. =A0There's no arguing about what's funny and what's
> not. =A0Either you thought it was funny or you didn't. =A0End of story.
>
> And I didn't
>
> >I can already predict your usual passive-aggressive response --
> >Oh I wasn't arguing about it, I just said I didn't see what was funny
> about it.
>
> >William Coleman =A0(ramashiva)
>
> well fuck me for having an opinion.

No, fuck you for making four posts expressing your opinion.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


   
Date: 14 Dec 2008 18:06:25
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ramashiva" <ramashiva@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:0115ff42-ffcb-4c76-b0d7-b5d478b1dd55@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 14, 3:58 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:697fba60-3c72-4f0c-8a08-11dff691b667@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 3:45 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >> I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
> >Oh fuck you, Susan. There's no arguing about what's funny and what's
> not. Either you thought it was funny or you didn't. End of story.
>
> And I didn't
>
> >I can already predict your usual passive-aggressive response --
> >Oh I wasn't arguing about it, I just said I didn't see what was funny
> about it.
>
>> >William Coleman (ramashiva)
>
>> well fuck me for having an opinion.

>No, fuck you for making four posts expressing your opinion.


>William Coleman (ramashiva)

2 for you and NO opinion stated




  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:55:24
From: ramashiva
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14, 3:45=A0pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:

> I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.

Oh fuck you, Susan. There's no arguing about what's funny and what's
not. Either you thought it was funny or you didn't. End of story.

I can already predict your usual passive-aggressive response --

Oh I wasn't arguing about it, I just said I didn't see what was funny
about it.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


   
Date: 14 Dec 2008 17:58:15
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ramashiva" <ramashiva@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:697fba60-3c72-4f0c-8a08-11dff691b667@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 14, 3:45 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:

>> I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.

>Oh fuck you, Susan. There's no arguing about what's funny and what's
not. Either you thought it was funny or you didn't. End of story.

And I didn't

>I can already predict your usual passive-aggressive response --

>Oh I wasn't arguing about it, I just said I didn't see what was funny
about it.


>William Coleman (ramashiva)

well fuck me for having an opinion.

I didn't think it was funny that someone burned down Palin's church either.




  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:14:36
From: Double Down Now
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14, 4:21=A0pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:
> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why this =
is
> funny.
>

Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
footage....LOL!!!!


   
Date: 14 Dec 2008 17:16:05
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net > wrote:
>> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why this
>> is
>> funny.
>

>Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
>footage....LOL!!!!


OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten tomato
at Obama I guess I agree.




    
Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:37:30
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:

> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why this
> >> is
> >> funny.
> >
>
> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> >footage....LOL!!!!
>
>
> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten tomato
> at Obama I guess I agree.

This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.

-------- 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




     
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:10:11
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
>
>> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> funny.
>> >
>>
>> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
>> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
>> >footage....LOL!!!!
>>
>>
>> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
>> tomato
>> at Obama I guess I agree.
>
> This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.

No, and neither did President Bush. Although Sadam did kill a couple of
million - not that any of you liberals ever gave a shit about that.

Irish Mike





      
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:02:22
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said:

> Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> million

Now we're up to a couple of million?

---Joseph



       
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:39:09
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"Joe Mion" <joe_mion@cox.net > wrote in message
news:2008121420022275249-joemion@coxnet...
> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
>
>> Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>> million
>
> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>
> ---Joseph

Sorry to disappoint you Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did kill
around 2,000,000 people. Of course it's hard to get an exact count given
disappearances, sorting out all the bodies in the mass granves that have
been found and not knowing how many more mass graves are yet to be
discovered. But the following is a rough estimate.
"Saddam Hussein
Full name Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti. AKA 'Great Uncle', AKA 'Lion
of Babylon', AKA 'Lion of Iraq', AKA 'Beast of Baghdad'.

Country: Iraq.

Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,000
Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during the
Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the
Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis
killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to
as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable
figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during
Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,000.
(Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest
that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed could
be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of
international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. "

But hey bucko, don't let the facts get in the way of your never ending
liberal rant against President Bush. And be sure to ignore the fact that
Saddam always had the power to avoid any conflict between America and Iraq.
Follow the UN agreement that he signed, stop firing on U.S. aircraft, stop
funding suicide bombers that were killing Israelis, don't invade Kuwait,
stop slaughtering the Kurds with chemical weapons. You know, a few little
things like that. But Saddam wanted a war just like he wanted the war he
started with Iran. He got what he wanted.

Irish Mike








        
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:26:07
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 22:39:09 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said:

> Sorry to disappoint you Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did kill
> around 2,000,000 people.

I'm not trying to defend the guy, bucko, but you have to provide some
sort of basis for your number. In the past, you have quoted a much
lower number (and if I weren't so lazy, I'd dig those posts up myself),
so this whole 2-million thing is news to me.

Of course, reading your article (that was extracted from where again?
(cite required)) at least half of the claimed 2-million are due to
fighting the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s. So, in a nutshell, you are
charging EVERY SINGLE DEATH ON BOTH SIDES to the murderous Saddam. By
the same logic, Jeferson Davis was the most murderous person in the
United States history.

But, it's an interesting way to execute fuzzy math. Incidentally,
wasn't Iran our MORTAL ENEMY back in those days, with the hostage
crisis and all that Ayatollah stuff, and wasn't it the good old USA
that was supporting Iraq in that war? Why then isn't the Ayatollah
Khomeni charged with being the brutal murderer of that time? Why our
ally, Saddam? I guess it just matters what your perspective is, eh?

And then, since we backed Iraq, wouldn't we be somewhat responsible for
those million deaths?

By the same token, there were some 200+ murders in Oakland, California
last year. Do you feel compelled to charge Goerge Bush as being
responsible for those deaths. Seems fair to me, based on the logic
presented in your article (that you refused to cite).

Just want to make sure I have this right. If you're going to put
numbers on things, make sure that those numbers apply equally to all
parties, eh?

---Joseph



       
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:55:01
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:

> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
>
> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> > million
>
> Now we're up to a couple of million?

Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
history."

_______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




        
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:12:22
From: bub
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:55:01 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling?

we can say thr same thingabout you.twirp

million killed by bush in iraq,uhhhh ok


        
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:16:36
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>
>> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
>>
>> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>> > million
>>
>> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>
> Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
> Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> history."

Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he started
with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for all those
Iraqis and Iraniansi.
Not that you ever gave a thought to the millions of American infants you and
your ilk have had put to death.

Irish Mike





         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:20:50
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 1:16 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
> >>
> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> >> > million
> >>
> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
> >
> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> > history."
>
> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
> considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he started
> with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for all those
> Iraqis and Iraniansi.

First of all, Iran invaded Iraq. Not the other way around. This is
documented fact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

Second, I think it's time you cited the source of your Iraqi death toll.
Bring it already.

> Not that you ever gave a thought to the millions of American infants you and
> your ilk have had put to death.

Actually, I have never had an abortion, nor has any of my female
"relations." But thanks for your interest in my reproductive rights.

----- 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 05:36:44
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:2kgh16x66r.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 15 2008 1:16 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net>
>> >> said:
>> >>
>> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>> >> > million
>> >>
>> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>> >
>> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
>> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
>> > history."
>>
>> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
>> considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he
>> started
>> with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for all
>> those
>> Iraqis and Iraniansi.
>
> First of all, Iran invaded Iraq. Not the other way around. This is
> documented fact:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
>
> Second, I think it's time you cited the source of your Iraqi death toll.
> Bring it already.

Sorry to disappoint you and Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did kill
around 2,000,000 people. Of course it's hard to get an exact count given
disappearances, sorting out all the bodies in the mass granves that have
been found and not knowing how many more mass graves are yet to be
discovered. But the following is a rough estimate.
"Saddam Hussein
Full name Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti. AKA 'Great Uncle', AKA 'Lion
of Babylon', AKA 'Lion of Iraq', AKA 'Beast of Baghdad'.

Country: Iraq.

Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,000
Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during the
Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the
Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis
killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to
as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable
figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during
Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,000.
(Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest
that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed could
be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of
international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. "

But hey bucko, don't let the facts get in the way of your never ending
liberal rant against President Bush. And be sure to ignore the fact that
Saddam always had the power to avoid any conflict between America and Iraq.
Follow the UN agreement that he signed, stop firing on U.S. aircraft, stop
funding suicide bombers that were killing Israelis, don't invade Kuwait,
stop slaughtering the Kurds with chemical weapons. You know, a few little
things like that. But Saddam wanted a war just like he wanted the war he
started with Iran. He got what he wanted.

Irish Mike






           
Date: 15 Dec 2008 14:09:32
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 5:36 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:2kgh16x66r.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 15 2008 1:16 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >
> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net>
> >> >> said:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> >> >> > million
> >> >>
> >> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
> >> >
> >> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
> >> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> >> > history."
> >>
> >> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
> >> considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he
> >> started
> >> with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for all
> >> those
> >> Iraqis and Iraniansi.
> >
> > First of all, Iran invaded Iraq. Not the other way around. This is
> > documented fact:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
> >
> > Second, I think it's time you cited the source of your Iraqi death toll.
> > Bring it already.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you and Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did kill
> around 2,000,000 people. Of course it's hard to get an exact count given
> disappearances, sorting out all the bodies in the mass granves that have
> been found and not knowing how many more mass graves are yet to be
> discovered. But the following is a rough estimate.
> "Saddam Hussein
> Full name Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti. AKA 'Great Uncle', AKA 'Lion
> of Babylon', AKA 'Lion of Iraq', AKA 'Beast of Baghdad'.
>
> Country: Iraq.
>
> Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and 340,000
> Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during the
> Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the
> Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis
> killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500 to
> as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No reliable
> figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during
> Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and 150,000.
> (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003 suggest
> that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed could
> be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because of
> international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. "
>
> But hey bucko, don't let the facts get in the way of your never ending
> liberal rant against President Bush. And be sure to ignore the fact that
> Saddam always had the power to avoid any conflict between America and Iraq.
> Follow the UN agreement that he signed, stop firing on U.S. aircraft, stop
> funding suicide bombers that were killing Israelis, don't invade Kuwait,
> stop slaughtering the Kurds with chemical weapons. You know, a few little
> things like that. But Saddam wanted a war just like he wanted the war he
> started with Iran. He got what he wanted.

LMAO! Well, the statistics you posted don't jive with the figures you've
been blathering on about. Not even close. Several times you insisted that
Saddam had killed 2 million Iraqis. Read what you posted real closely, and
see if you can figure out where you got it wrong. Spectacularly, I might
add.

And Iraq did not invade Iran. See the link I helpfully provided you
earlier. Do us all a favor and commit that to memory, 'kay?

_______________________________________________________________________ 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



            
Date: 15 Dec 2008 17:59:18
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:s51j16x7h1.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 15 2008 5:36 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:2kgh16x66r.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Dec 15 2008 1:16 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
>> >
>> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> >> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net>
>> >> >> said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>> >> >> > million
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>> >> >
>> >> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I
>> >> > guess
>> >> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
>> >> > history."
>> >>
>> >> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
>> >> considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he
>> >> started
>> >> with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for all
>> >> those
>> >> Iraqis and Iraniansi.
>> >
>> > First of all, Iran invaded Iraq. Not the other way around. This is
>> > documented fact:
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
>> >
>> > Second, I think it's time you cited the source of your Iraqi death
>> > toll.
>> > Bring it already.
>>
>> Sorry to disappoint you and Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did
>> kill
>> around 2,000,000 people. Of course it's hard to get an exact count given
>> disappearances, sorting out all the bodies in the mass granves that have
>> been found and not knowing how many more mass graves are yet to be
>> discovered. But the following is a rough estimate.
>> "Saddam Hussein
>> Full name Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti. AKA 'Great Uncle', AKA
>> 'Lion
>> of Babylon', AKA 'Lion of Iraq', AKA 'Beast of Baghdad'.
>>
>> Country: Iraq.
>>
>> Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and
>> 340,000
>> Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during
>> the
>> Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the
>> Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis
>> killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500
>> to
>> as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No
>> reliable
>> figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during
>> Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and
>> 150,000.
>> (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003
>> suggest
>> that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed
>> could
>> be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because
>> of
>> international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. "
>>
>> But hey bucko, don't let the facts get in the way of your never ending
>> liberal rant against President Bush. And be sure to ignore the fact that
>> Saddam always had the power to avoid any conflict between America and
>> Iraq.
>> Follow the UN agreement that he signed, stop firing on U.S. aircraft,
>> stop
>> funding suicide bombers that were killing Israelis, don't invade Kuwait,
>> stop slaughtering the Kurds with chemical weapons. You know, a few
>> little
>> things like that. But Saddam wanted a war just like he wanted the war he
>> started with Iran. He got what he wanted.
>
> LMAO! Well, the statistics you posted don't jive with the figures you've
> been blathering on about. Not even close. Several times you insisted that
> Saddam had killed 2 million Iraqis. Read what you posted real closely, and
> see if you can figure out where you got it wrong. Spectacularly, I might
> add.
>
> And Iraq did not invade Iran. See the link I helpfully provided you
> earlier. Do us all a favor and commit that to memory, 'kay?

Well bucko, you have your head squarely up your ass, as usual. The fact is,
Iraq invaded Iran on September 20, 1980.

"Rivals For for Power
Looking around the region at the end of the 1970s, Saddam also saw an
opportunity to establish himself as the leader of the Arab world. The
historic leader was the ruler of Egypt, but Anwar Sadat had been ostracized
for making peace with Israel. The Gulf States had money, but were militarily
weak. Syria was militarily strong, but financially weak.

Iraq's primary competition for regional dominance was its neighbor Iran, and
Iran seemed vulnerable because the revolution there had not yet ended.
Khomeini was still in the process of becoming the unchallenged Iranian
leader, but he had not solidified his power. The Iranian army was still in
disarray and radical Marxists were still battling the religious
fundamentalists in parts of the country. From Saddam's vantage point, the
timing seemed right to make a move.

The exact beginning of the war and its cause is difficult to pinpoint. One
of the earliest clashes occurred in June 1979, when Iraqi aircraft attacked
Iranian villages that were believed to be supporting Khomeini-backed Kurdish
rebels.

For the next several months, Iran sought to undermine Saddam by encouraging
protests by Shiites. Both countries supported rebel movements against the
other, and the Iranian-backed rebel group Al Dawaa attempted to assassinate
the Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz on April 1, 1980. Saddam outlawed the
group, deported large numbers of Iraqis who'd been born in Iran, and
executed one of the Shiite clerics who'd led the protests against his
regime. Khomeini then began to publicly call for the overthrow of Saddam.
Finally, in June 1980, the two nations severed relations.

Between June and September 1980, 193 clashes occurred along the Iran-Iraq
border. On September 17, Iraq abrogated the 1975 treaty and proclaimed the
Shatt "a national river." As Iraq mobilized Arab allies, Iran warned the
Gulf states they would be overthrown if they supported Saddam. Tensions
built, until a series of clashes occurred in early September along the
border near Qasr e-Shirin. Each nation blamed the other for the fighting.
Saddam threatened to seize territory he said Iran was supposed to transfer
to Iraq under an earlier agreement, but Khomeini refused to give up the
disputed lands. Sporadic fighting finally culminated in Iraq's invasion of
Iran on September 22, 1980. "

As I said bucko, Saddam could have avoided the Iraq vs. Iran war, just as he
could have avoided invading Kuwait and could have avoided any military
conflict with America. Saddam wanted these wars and he got what he wanted.

Irish Mike






             
Date: 15 Dec 2008 15:32:51
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 5:59 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:s51j16x7h1.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 15 2008 5:36 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >
> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:2kgh16x66r.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Dec 15 2008 1:16 AM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> >> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net>
> >> >> >> said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> >> >> >> > million
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I
> >> >> > guess
> >> >> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> >> >> > history."
> >> >>
> >> >> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
> >> >> considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he
> >> >> started
> >> >> with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for all
> >> >> those
> >> >> Iraqis and Iraniansi.
> >> >
> >> > First of all, Iran invaded Iraq. Not the other way around. This is
> >> > documented fact:
> >> >
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
> >> >
> >> > Second, I think it's time you cited the source of your Iraqi death
> >> > toll.
> >> > Bring it already.
> >>
> >> Sorry to disappoint you and Joe, but yeah, your liberal hero Saddam did
> >> kill
> >> around 2,000,000 people. Of course it's hard to get an exact count given
> >> disappearances, sorting out all the bodies in the mass granves that have
> >> been found and not knowing how many more mass graves are yet to be
> >> discovered. But the following is a rough estimate.
> >> "Saddam Hussein
> >> Full name Saddam Hussein al-Majid al-Tikriti. AKA 'Great Uncle', AKA
> >> 'Lion
> >> of Babylon', AKA 'Lion of Iraq', AKA 'Beast of Baghdad'.
> >>
> >> Country: Iraq.
> >>
> >> Kill tally: Approaching two million, including between 150,000 and
> >> 340,000
> >> Iraqi and between 450,000 and 730,000 Iranian combatants killed during
> >> the
> >> Iran-Iraq War. An estimated 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals killed following the
> >> Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. No conclusive figures for the number of Iraqis
> >> killed during the Gulf War, with estimates varying from as few as 1,500
> >> to
> >> as many as 200,000. Over 100,000 Kurds killed or "disappeared". No
> >> reliable
> >> figures for the number of Iraqi dissidents and Shia Muslims killed during
> >> Hussein's reign, though estimates put the figure between 60,000 and
> >> 150,000.
> >> (Mass graves discovered following the US occupation of Iraq in 2003
> >> suggest
> >> that the total combined figure for Kurds, Shias and dissidents killed
> >> could
> >> be as high as 300,000). Approximately 500,000 Iraqi children dead because
> >> of
> >> international trade sanctions introduced following the Gulf War. "
> >>
> >> But hey bucko, don't let the facts get in the way of your never ending
> >> liberal rant against President Bush. And be sure to ignore the fact that
> >> Saddam always had the power to avoid any conflict between America and
> >> Iraq.
> >> Follow the UN agreement that he signed, stop firing on U.S. aircraft,
> >> stop
> >> funding suicide bombers that were killing Israelis, don't invade Kuwait,
> >> stop slaughtering the Kurds with chemical weapons. You know, a few
> >> little
> >> things like that. But Saddam wanted a war just like he wanted the war he
> >> started with Iran. He got what he wanted.
> >
> > LMAO! Well, the statistics you posted don't jive with the figures you've
> > been blathering on about. Not even close. Several times you insisted that
> > Saddam had killed 2 million Iraqis. Read what you posted real closely, and
> > see if you can figure out where you got it wrong. Spectacularly, I might
> > add.
> >
> > And Iraq did not invade Iran. See the link I helpfully provided you
> > earlier. Do us all a favor and commit that to memory, 'kay?
>
> Well bucko, you have your head squarely up your ass, as usual. The fact is,
> Iraq invaded Iran on September 20, 1980.
>
> "Rivals For for Power
> Looking around the region at the end of the 1970s, Saddam also saw an
> opportunity to establish himself as the leader of the Arab world. The
> historic leader was the ruler of Egypt, but Anwar Sadat had been ostracized
> for making peace with Israel. The Gulf States had money, but were militarily
> weak. Syria was militarily strong, but financially weak.
>
> Iraq's primary competition for regional dominance was its neighbor Iran, and
> Iran seemed vulnerable because the revolution there had not yet ended.
> Khomeini was still in the process of becoming the unchallenged Iranian
> leader, but he had not solidified his power. The Iranian army was still in
> disarray and radical Marxists were still battling the religious
> fundamentalists in parts of the country. From Saddam's vantage point, the
> timing seemed right to make a move.
>
> The exact beginning of the war and its cause is difficult to pinpoint. One
> of the earliest clashes occurred in June 1979, when Iraqi aircraft attacked
> Iranian villages that were believed to be supporting Khomeini-backed Kurdish
> rebels.
>
> For the next several months, Iran sought to undermine Saddam by encouraging
> protests by Shiites. Both countries supported rebel movements against the
> other, and the Iranian-backed rebel group Al Dawaa attempted to assassinate
> the Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz on April 1, 1980. Saddam outlawed the
> group, deported large numbers of Iraqis who'd been born in Iran, and
> executed one of the Shiite clerics who'd led the protests against his
> regime. Khomeini then began to publicly call for the overthrow of Saddam.
> Finally, in June 1980, the two nations severed relations.
>
> Between June and September 1980, 193 clashes occurred along the Iran-Iraq
> border. On September 17, Iraq abrogated the 1975 treaty and proclaimed the
> Shatt "a national river." As Iraq mobilized Arab allies, Iran warned the
> Gulf states they would be overthrown if they supported Saddam. Tensions
> built, until a series of clashes occurred in early September along the
> border near Qasr e-Shirin. Each nation blamed the other for the fighting.
> Saddam threatened to seize territory he said Iran was supposed to transfer
> to Iraq under an earlier agreement, but Khomeini refused to give up the
> disputed lands. Sporadic fighting finally culminated in Iraq's invasion of
> Iran on September 22, 1980. "

Iran began shelling Iraq 18 days earlier, on September 4th. However I will
concede that my use of the word "invade" was incorrect.

> As I said bucko, Saddam could have avoided the Iraq vs. Iran war, just as he
> could have avoided invading Kuwait and could have avoided any military
> conflict with America. Saddam wanted these wars and he got what he wanted.

Saddam was informed by U.S. ambassador April Glaspie that the United
States "had no opinion on Arab-Arab conflict" (para-phrashing). Saddam
thought this meant he had free reign to invade Kuwait, as he believed he
was still in the good graces of the U.S.

He was wrong. The United States baited him.

And I really wish you'd post links to the sources you use. TIA.

______________________________________________________________________ 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 22:26:28
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:dDm1l.12192$ZP4.11094@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...

<... >

> Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
> considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he
> started with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for
> all those Iraqis and Iraniansi.
> Not that you ever gave a thought to the millions of American infants you
> and your ilk have had put to death.

You don't know it, but you prove us right every time you post.

About the stuff we really say, I mean. Not the stuff you have to pretend we
say.

Jim




          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:09:01
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 1:26 AM, Clave wrote:

> "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:dDm1l.12192$ZP4.11094@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> <...>
>
> > Actually bucko, two million is about right for Sadam. Especially
> > considering that more than a million were killed just in the war he
> > started with Iran. But it's touching to know that you feel so deeply for
> > all those Iraqis and Iraniansi.
> > Not that you ever gave a thought to the millions of American infants you
> > and your ilk have had put to death.
>
> You don't know it, but you prove us right every time you post.
>
> About the stuff we really say, I mean. Not the stuff you have to pretend we
> say.
>
> Jim

why exactly do you support killing babies ?

_____________________________________________________________________ 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:00:44
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>
>> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
>>
>> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>> > million
>>
>> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>
> Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
> Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> history."

The facts keep coming in, and with every passing day it gets harder and
harder for them to maintain the cognitive dissonance necessary to believe
that they haven't been HORRIBLY, DISASTROUSLY WRONG about EVERY SINGLE THING
for the past eight years, so the lies they tell themselves get more and more
outrageous and even more frequently repeated.

Jim




         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:20:25
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 12:00 AM, Clave wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
> >>
> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
> >> > million
> >>
> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
> >
> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
> > history."
>
> The facts keep coming in, and with every passing day it gets harder and
> harder for them to maintain the cognitive dissonance necessary to believe
> that they haven't been HORRIBLY, DISASTROUSLY WRONG about EVERY SINGLE THING
> for the past eight years, so the lies they tell themselves get more and more
> outrageous and even more frequently repeated.

What's frightening is the sheer number of people who suffer from this
malady. Reality simply doesn't exist to them anymore.

____________________________________________________________________ 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:10:49
From: bub
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:20:25 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>What's frightening is the sheer number of people who suffer from this
>malady. Reality simply doesn't exist to them anymore.

this from the douchebag who says cheney blew up the wtc/9-11

you sir are an idiot


          
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:22:48
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:p16h16x3aq.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 15 2008 12:00 AM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net>
>> >> said:
>> >>
>> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>> >> > million
>> >>
>> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>> >
>> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
>> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
>> > history."
>>
>> The facts keep coming in, and with every passing day it gets harder and
>> harder for them to maintain the cognitive dissonance necessary to believe
>> that they haven't been HORRIBLY, DISASTROUSLY WRONG about EVERY SINGLE
>> THING
>> for the past eight years, so the lies they tell themselves get more and
>> more
>> outrageous and even more frequently repeated.
>
> What's frightening is the sheer number of people who suffer from this
> malady. Reality simply doesn't exist to them anymore.

As long as they exist to each other.

They just don't get the fact that they stopped talking to/with America a
long time ago, and started babbling only amongst each other, and as long as
there's *someone* around to reinforce their delusions, they aren't really
wrong.

They don't understand that to most of the country, other than being clearly
hateful, it's meaningless, fact-challenged gibberish.

Jim




           
Date: 14 Dec 2008 23:31:24
From: mccard
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com > wrote in message
news:cpednXRw-4o0dNjUnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@cablespeedmi.com...
> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:p16h16x3aq.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Dec 15 2008 12:00 AM, Clave wrote:
>>
>>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:5i4h16x23q.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>> > On Dec 14 2008 11:02 PM, Joe Mion wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 2008-12-14 16:10:11 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net>
>>> >> said:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of
>>> >> > million
>>> >>
>>> >> Now we're up to a couple of million?
>>> >
>>> > Funny, isn't it, how the number swells with every re-telling? I guess
>>> > Mikey's practicing the right-wing discipline known as "revisionist
>>> > history."
>>>
>>> The facts keep coming in, and with every passing day it gets harder and
>>> harder for them to maintain the cognitive dissonance necessary to
>>> believe
>>> that they haven't been HORRIBLY, DISASTROUSLY WRONG about EVERY SINGLE
>>> THING
>>> for the past eight years, so the lies they tell themselves get more and
>>> more
>>> outrageous and even more frequently repeated.
>>
>> What's frightening is the sheer number of people who suffer from this
>> malady. Reality simply doesn't exist to them anymore.
>
> As long as they exist to each other.
>
> They just don't get the fact that they stopped talking to/with America a
> long time ago, and started babbling only amongst each other, and as long
> as there's *someone* around to reinforce their delusions, they aren't
> really wrong.
>
> They don't understand that to most of the country, other than being
> clearly hateful, it's meaningless, fact-challenged gibberish.
>
>
But it you can rattle it off like a true disciple, a little brown boot
wearing heel clicker, you are "standing up for what is right".



      
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 7:10 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> >
> >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
> >> >> this
> >> >> is
> >> >> funny.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> >> tomato
> >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> >
> > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
>
> No, and neither did President Bush.

Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.

> Although Sadam did kill a couple of million - not that any of you liberals
ever gave a shit about
> that.

Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
murderous actions.

------ 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



       
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:52:12
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: hey shitbag
There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
United States.

> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
> murderous actions.

____________________________________________________________________ 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




        
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:20:11
From: pltrgyst
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:12 -0800, "La Cosa Nostradamus"
<a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>United States.

And we've still got 100,000,000 too many people in the US, and three billion too
many in the world. Go figure.

-- Larry


         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:00:39
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: hey shitbag

"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst@spamlessxhost.org > wrote in message
news:u6qbk41nr86m1t2a20f5sngpq4mrobpqoj@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:12 -0800, "La Cosa Nostradamus"
> <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
>>There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>>United States.
>
> And we've still got 100,000,000 too many people in the US, and three
> billion too
> many in the world. Go figure.
>
> -- Larry

Well bucko, you could start by rounding up and deporting, 20,000,000 illegal
aliens.

Irish Mike




         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:50:44
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 12:20 AM, pltrgyst wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:52:12 -0800, "La Cosa Nostradamus"
> <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> >United States.
>
> And we've still got 100,000,000 too many people in the US, and three billion
too
> many in the world. Go figure.

I have a feeling that we may see population reduction on this kind of
scale in our lifetimes.

________________________________________________________________________ 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:53:26
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> United States.

Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?

________________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:01:21
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 14 2008 11:53 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
> > There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> > United States.
>
> Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?

no, i didnt say it did, punk

---- 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 14:03:29
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 4:01 AM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 11:53 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> > > There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> > > United States.
> >
> > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
>
> no, i didnt say it did, punk

Then quit changing the subject. If you want to debate abortion, start your
own damned thread. You can call it: "OT: Is it okay to abort future
welchers?"

______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:59:01
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: hey shitbag

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
>> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>> United States.
>
> Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?

And what "war crimes" would that be, shitbag?

"When someone screams about a terrible policy of the present administration,
just pose four questions:

. Was the controversial decision taken with bipartisan support?

. Were there precedents for such action in prior Democratic administrations?

. Will such polices continue under the newly elected Obama administration?

. Have the media changed their position on the issue since the November
election?

If the answer to these questions is yes, then the acrimony was probably
about politics and style, not principle and substance.

Take the so-called war on terror. The Patriot Act passed Congress in October
2001 by majorities in both parties -- and was reauthorized in 2006. The
original versions of the FISA wiretapping accords were enacted under the
Carter administration in 1978.

The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were given authorization by Congress. The
pre-9/11 precursor for the removal of Saddam Hussein was the unanimous
passage of the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act, prompted by then-President Bill
Clinton's warnings about Saddam's dangerous weapons: "Some day, some way, I
guarantee you he'll use the arsenal."

Irish Mike





          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:13:43
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 12:59 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> >> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> >> United States.
> >
> > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
>
> And what "war crimes" would that be, shitbag?

Invading and occupying a country based on lies and "evidence" manufactured
by Cheney's "Office of Special Plans," you dumbshit. Engaging in torture
and rendition, banned by the Geneva Conventions and international law.
Engaging in collective punishment in Fallujah (prohibited by the GCs). All
of it, heavily documented.

Those war crimes.

-------- 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




          
Date: 14 Dec 2008 22:05:14
From: Clave
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:Jmm1l.12189$ZP4.548@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>>
>>> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>>> United States.
>>
>> Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
>
> And what "war crimes" would that be, shitbag?
>
> "When someone screams about a terrible policy of the present
> administration,
> just pose four questions:
>
> . Was the controversial decision taken with bipartisan support?

Not *informed* support. Bush took active steps to keep Congress from
knowing the truth.


> . Were there precedents for such action in prior Democratic
> administrations?

No.


> . Will such polices continue under the newly elected Obama administration?

Immaterial.


> . Have the media changed their position on the issue since the November
> election?

Immaterial.

It's amazing the circularity of thought and outright denial you need to
indulge in to keep your little world afloat.

Jim





         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:03:17
From: Clave
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
>> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>> United States.
>
> Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?

It's a popular barking ninny attempt to minimize the human cost of der
Fuhrer's war -- often focusing on US troop casualties or using auto
fatalities instead of abortions.

It's a tacit admission that the human costs of the war really are
indefensible.

Jim




          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:02:07
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 12:03 AM, Clave wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> >> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> >> United States.
> >
> > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
>
> It's a popular barking ninny attempt to minimize the human cost of der
> Fuhrer's war -- often focusing on US troop casualties or using auto
> fatalities instead of abortions.
>
> It's a tacit admission that the human costs of the war really are
> indefensible.
>
> Jim

hey bitch, do you think abortion is ok ?

________________________________________________________________________ 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




          
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:47:39
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 12:03 AM, Clave wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >
> >> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> >> United States.
> >
> > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
>
> It's a popular barking ninny attempt to minimize the human cost of der
> Fuhrer's war -- often focusing on US troop casualties or using auto
> fatalities instead of abortions.

It's a laughable, pathetic tactic.

> It's a tacit admission that the human costs of the war really are
> indefensible.

I still cannot fathom how someone can look at the casualty totals – even
the ones deemed "acceptable" by whatever political establishment is
seeking to conceal their complicity in these crimes – and try to
rationalize them. Only the lowest form of human being can digest those
numbers without acknowledging the absolute savagery of this country's
political establishment.

Even more egregious, these very same hypocrites are the ones decrying
"terrorism" as our number one enemy, which must be crushed with our
military might... never connecting the dots between the state-sponsored
terrorism we inflict on countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
Somalia (that's just this week, of course), which just reinforces the
feedback loop of extremism and religious fundamentalism that cause
terrorism in the first place.

Cause and effect simply does not exist for people like Irish Mike. "What,
a million Iraqis have died since our invasion? Meh, must have been those
backward Muslims. Savages."

____________________________________________________________________ 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



           
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:02:55
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 12:47 AM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Dec 15 2008 12:03 AM, Clave wrote:
>
> > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> > >
> > >> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> > >> United States.
> > >
> > > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
> >
> > It's a popular barking ninny attempt to minimize the human cost of der
> > Fuhrer's war -- often focusing on US troop casualties or using auto
> > fatalities instead of abortions.
>
> It's a laughable, pathetic tactic.
>
> > It's a tacit admission that the human costs of the war really are
> > indefensible.
>
> I still cannot fathom how someone can look at the casualty totals – even
> the ones deemed "acceptable" by whatever political establishment is
> seeking to conceal their complicity in these crimes – and try to
> rationalize them. Only the lowest form of human being can digest those
> numbers without acknowledging the absolute savagery of this country's
> political establishment.
>
> Even more egregious, these very same hypocrites are the ones decrying
> "terrorism" as our number one enemy, which must be crushed with our
> military might... never connecting the dots between the state-sponsored
> terrorism we inflict on countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
> Somalia (that's just this week, of course), which just reinforces the
> feedback loop of extremism and religious fundamentalism that cause
> terrorism in the first place.
>
> Cause and effect simply does not exist for people like Irish Mike. "What,
> a million Iraqis have died since our invasion? Meh, must have been those
> backward Muslims. Savages."

is abortion defensible ?

----- 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




           
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:10:13
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: hey shitbag

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:rk7h16x1eq.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 15 2008 12:03 AM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
>> > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>> >
>> >> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>> >> United States.
>> >
>> > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
>>
>> It's a popular barking ninny attempt to minimize the human cost of der
>> Fuhrer's war -- often focusing on US troop casualties or using auto
>> fatalities instead of abortions.
>
> It's a laughable, pathetic tactic.
>
>> It's a tacit admission that the human costs of the war really are
>> indefensible.
>
> I still cannot fathom how someone can look at the casualty totals - even
> the ones deemed "acceptable" by whatever political establishment is
> seeking to conceal their complicity in these crimes - and try to
> rationalize them. Only the lowest form of human being can digest those
> numbers without acknowledging the absolute savagery of this country's
> political establishment.
>
> Even more egregious, these very same hypocrites are the ones decrying
> "terrorism" as our number one enemy, which must be crushed with our
> military might... never connecting the dots between the state-sponsored
> terrorism we inflict on countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
> Somalia (that's just this week, of course), which just reinforces the
> feedback loop of extremism and religious fundamentalism that cause
> terrorism in the first place.
>
> Cause and effect simply does not exist for people like Irish Mike. "What,
> a million Iraqis have died since our invasion? Meh, must have been those
> backward Muslims. Savages."

Isn't it amazing that liberal ass wipes like ChrisRobin spend every waking
moment trashing America and telling any one who will listen that it's a
horrible place. Yet, people from all over the world want to come here to
live and these anti-American liberal bastards never leave.

Irish Mike





            
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:09:11
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 15 2008 1:10 AM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:rk7h16x1eq.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 15 2008 12:03 AM, Clave wrote:
> >
> >> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:6f4h16xs2q.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >> > On Dec 14 2008 10:52 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> >> >> United States.
> >> >
> >> > Do you think this somehow excuses George Bush's war crimes, shitbag?
> >>
> >> It's a popular barking ninny attempt to minimize the human cost of der
> >> Fuhrer's war -- often focusing on US troop casualties or using auto
> >> fatalities instead of abortions.
> >
> > It's a laughable, pathetic tactic.
> >
> >> It's a tacit admission that the human costs of the war really are
> >> indefensible.
> >
> > I still cannot fathom how someone can look at the casualty totals - even
> > the ones deemed "acceptable" by whatever political establishment is
> > seeking to conceal their complicity in these crimes - and try to
> > rationalize them. Only the lowest form of human being can digest those
> > numbers without acknowledging the absolute savagery of this country's
> > political establishment.
> >
> > Even more egregious, these very same hypocrites are the ones decrying
> > "terrorism" as our number one enemy, which must be crushed with our
> > military might... never connecting the dots between the state-sponsored
> > terrorism we inflict on countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
> > Somalia (that's just this week, of course), which just reinforces the
> > feedback loop of extremism and religious fundamentalism that cause
> > terrorism in the first place.
> >
> > Cause and effect simply does not exist for people like Irish Mike. "What,
> > a million Iraqis have died since our invasion? Meh, must have been those
> > backward Muslims. Savages."
>
> Isn't it amazing that liberal ass wipes like ChrisRobin spend every waking
> moment trashing America and telling any one who will listen that it's a
> horrible place. Yet, people from all over the world want to come here to
> live and these anti-American liberal bastards never leave.

I have never trashed America, only its asinine policies that wreak havoc
on the world. So please, quit foaming at the mouth already.

_____________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




            
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:02:53
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On 2008-12-14 22:10:13 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said:

> Isn't it amazing that liberal ass wipes like ChrisRobin spend every waking
> moment trashing America and telling any one who will listen that it's a
> horrible place. Yet, people from all over the world want to come here to
> live and these anti-American liberal bastards never leave.

I don't know anyone who is calling America a horrible place. Right
now, at least. But, things can change in an awful hurry. But, my
point is, even when things are good, don't you think it's possible to
make them better? And, it's been my observation that when you want to
make something better thant it is, you have to criticize the way things
are now...

As an aside, this is the same cut and paste argument you made in the
recent Christmas Hypocrites thread.

Talk about one speed on the freeway....Don't you ever shift into second gear?

---Joseph



            
Date: 14 Dec 2008 22:15:07
From: Clave
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > wrote in message
news:exm1l.12191$ZP4.8271@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...

<... >

> Isn't it amazing that liberal ass wipes like ChrisRobin spend every waking
> moment trashing America and telling any one who will listen that it's a
> horrible place...

Isn't it amazing how insecure, dull-witted windbags like Mike have to stoop
to outright lying about their intellectual betters?

Easier than thinking, I guess. I doubt he even has the conscience it would
take to be embarrassed.

Tsk.

Jim




        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:54:07
From: Clave
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:cs0h16x95p.ln2@recgroups.com...

<... >

>> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
>> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
>> murderous actions.
>
> There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> United States.

There's always some barking ninny who thinks false comparisons like this
pass for wit.

Jim




         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:17:57
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 14 2008 10:54 PM, Clave wrote:

> "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:cs0h16x95p.ln2@recgroups.com...
>
> <...>
>
> >> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
> >> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
> >> murderous actions.
> >
> > There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> > United States.
>
> There's always some barking ninny who thinks false comparisons like this
> pass for wit.
>
> Jim

oh gosh, a babykiller called me a ninny.

Maybe if i give money to people based on color i will feel better.

______________________________________________________________________ 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 06:17:32
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
On Dec 14 2008 10:17 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 10:54 PM, Clave wrote:
>
> > "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:cs0h16x95p.ln2@recgroups.com...
> >
> > <...>
> >
> > >> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
> > >> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
> > >> murderous actions.
> > >
> > > There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
> > > United States.
> >
> > There's always some barking ninny who thinks false comparisons like this
> > pass for wit.
> >
> > Jim
>
> oh gosh, a babykiller called me a ninny.
>
> Maybe if i give money to people based on color i will feel better.

IF YOU "GAVE" MONEY TO ANYONE ..IT SHOULD BE THE GUY YOU STIFFED


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire

______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




          
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:13:42
From: Clave
Subject: Re: hey shitbag
"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:lc2h16x4sp.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 10:54 PM, Clave wrote:
>
>> "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:cs0h16x95p.ln2@recgroups.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>> >> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
>> >> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
>> >> murderous actions.
>> >
>> > There are currently 1.3 million abortions performed each year in the
>> > United States.
>>
>> There's always some barking ninny who thinks false comparisons like this
>> pass for wit.
>>
>> Jim
>
> oh gosh, a babykiller...

So now you have to lie about me?

You really *are* out of rational arguments -- I guess "barking ninny" was
more apropos than I'd thought.

Jim




       
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:49:08
From: bub
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline

151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
·
The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
Article history

"An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
officially accepted by the Iraqi government.

The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
reports - of 47,668."


so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
of the question


        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:49:18
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
>
> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
> ·
> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
> Article history
>
> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
>
> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
> reports - of 47,668."
>
>
> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
> of the question

Reread that first paragraph for comprehension. The "largest study of
deaths officially accepted by the Iraqi government." Our puppet
government. See the problem inherent with that conclusion?

The Lancet study is the widely regarded as the most comprehensive study of
Iraqi civilian deaths, and it was conducted without political interference
("acceptance") by either the Iraqi or U.S. governments. Extrapolating
their figures into 2009, and there's a very good chance the death toll
eclipses 1 million.

____________________________________________________________________ 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 22:50:42
From: bub
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:49:18 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>The Lancet study is the widely regarded as the most comprehensive study of
>Iraqi civilian deaths, and it was conducted without political interference
>("acceptance") by either the Iraqi or U.S. governments. Extrapolating
>their figures into 2009, and there's a very good chance the death toll
>eclipses 1 million.


oh ok chrissy, let's use your numbers

600,000 in june of 2006

to make your million total bullshit stat that's another 400,000

june 2006 to june2008 is equal to 730 days

that make a whopping 548 casulties every day sevens day a week

i think if that was the case, i'm sure it would have made the papers

and your explanation is?


          
Date: 16 Dec 2008 00:00:14
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 11:50 PM, bub wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:49:18 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >The Lancet study is the widely regarded as the most comprehensive study of
> >Iraqi civilian deaths, and it was conducted without political interference
> >("acceptance") by either the Iraqi or U.S. governments. Extrapolating
> >their figures into 2009, and there's a very good chance the death toll
> >eclipses 1 million.
>
>
> oh ok chrissy, let's use your numbers
>
> 600,000 in june of 2006
>
> to make your million total bullshit stat that's another 400,000
>
> june 2006 to june2008 is equal to 730 days
>
> that make a whopping 548 casulties every day sevens day a week
>
> i think if that was the case, i'm sure it would have made the papers
>
> and your explanation is?

Chrissy,lol

_______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 19:14:21
From: FL Turbo
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:49:18 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
>> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
>>
>> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
>> ·
>> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
>> Article history
>>
>> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
>> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
>> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
>> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
>>
>> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
>> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
>> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
>> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
>> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
>> reports - of 47,668."
>>
>>
>> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
>> of the question
>

See below for the latest IBC estimate.
It is now about double the number quoted above.

>Reread that first paragraph for comprehension. The "largest study of
>deaths officially accepted by the Iraqi government." Our puppet
>government. See the problem inherent with that conclusion?
>

I might add that the IBC is no apologist for either the US or the Iraq
government.

>The Lancet study is the widely regarded as the most comprehensive study of
>Iraqi civilian deaths, and it was conducted without political interference
>("acceptance") by either the Iraqi or U.S. governments. Extrapolating

>their figures into 2009, and there's a very good chance the death toll
>eclipses 1 million.
>

Extrapolating a bullshit number only gets you a larger bullshit
number.

The 1,000,000 number is absolute bullshit.
It is just that it is a nice, big round number that gets parroted
endlessly by Leftists.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Iraq Body Count is an ongoing human security project which maintains
and updates the world’s largest public database of violent civilian
deaths during and since the 2003 invasion. The count encompasses
non-combatants killed by military or paramilitary action and the
breakdown in civil security following the invasion.

Data is drawn from cross-checked media reports, hospital, morgue, NGO
and official figures to produce a credible record of known deaths and
incidents. (more in About IBC)
-----------------------------------------------------------------

The current number is 90,000 to 98,000 deaths.
(With the standard "it depends" disclaimer.)

-------------------------------------------------------------
If you go to the IBC site, you should read one of their articles,
entitled "Reality checks: Some responses to the latest Lancet
estimates"





         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 09:11:35
From: bub
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:49:18 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
<a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:

>On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
>> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
>>
>> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
>> ·
>> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
>> Article history
>>
>> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
>> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
>> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
>> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
>>
>> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
>> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
>> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
>> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
>> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
>> reports - of 47,668."
>>
>>
>> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
>> of the question
>
>Reread that first paragraph for comprehension. The "largest study of
>deaths officially accepted by the Iraqi government." Our puppet
>government. See the problem inherent with that conclusion?
>
>The Lancet study is the widely regarded as the most comprehensive study of
>Iraqi civilian deaths, and it was conducted without political interference
>("acceptance") by either the Iraqi or U.S. governments. Extrapolating
>their figures into 2009, and there's a very good chance the death toll
>eclipses 1 million.
>
>____________________________________________________________________ 
>* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



oh that's right. a conspiracy by the iraqi government.
damn, i should have thought of that.
of course it's over a million.thanks for the link
www.rosie.com



          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 14:01:23
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 10:11 AM, bub wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:49:18 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> >> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
> >>
> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
> >>
> >> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
> >> ·
> >> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
> >> Article history
> >>
> >> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
> >> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> >> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
> >> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
> >>
> >> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
> >> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
> >> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
> >> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
> >> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
> >> reports - of 47,668."
> >>
> >>
> >> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
> >> of the question
> >
> >Reread that first paragraph for comprehension. The "largest study of
> >deaths officially accepted by the Iraqi government." Our puppet
> >government. See the problem inherent with that conclusion?
> >
> >The Lancet study is the widely regarded as the most comprehensive study of
> >Iraqi civilian deaths, and it was conducted without political interference
> >("acceptance") by either the Iraqi or U.S. governments. Extrapolating
> >their figures into 2009, and there's a very good chance the death toll
> >eclipses 1 million.
> >
> oh that's right. a conspiracy by the iraqi government.
> damn, i should have thought of that.
> of course it's over a million.thanks for the link
> www.rosie.com

I think you need to point out where I mentioned a conspiracy, because I
didn't.

------- 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 14:36:03
From: Tom White
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
ChrisRobin <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> Reread that first paragraph for comprehension. The "largest study of
> deaths officially accepted by the Iraqi government." Our puppet
> government. See the problem inherent with that conclusion?

I live in the South under the puppet government set up after
Lincoln's homicidal rampage.


        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:47:42
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
>
> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
> ·
> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
> Article history
>
> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
>
> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
> reports - of 47,668."
>
>
> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
> of the question
how many abortions were done in the usa in that timeframe?

_____________________________________________________________________ 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 23:51:46
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:uj0h16x84p.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
>> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
>> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
>>
>> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
>> ·
>> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
>> Article history
>>
>> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
>> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
>> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
>> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
>>
>> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
>> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
>> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
>> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
>> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
>> reports - of 47,668."
>>
>>
>> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
>> of the question
> how many abortions were done in the usa in that timeframe?

And of the "estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the
violence
that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
until June 2006", how many were killed by Americans? How many were killed
by their fellow muslims?
And given that Sadam had killed an estimated 2,000,000 how many would he
have killed in that time frame if he had been left in power? Now compare
those figures to the number of babies liberal Democrats have had murdered in
the United States during that time frame.

Irish Mike




          
Date: 14 Dec 2008 23:53:57
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 20:51:46 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said:

> And given that Sadam had killed an estimated 2,000,000

You keep spouting this number. Name your source.

And, really, I don't get it, Mike. On the one hand, you say we
need(ed) to save the Iraqi people from their evil dictator, but on the
other hand, you keep insisting that muslims should be exterminated.
You do realize that Iraq is a muslim nation, don't you?

---Joseph



           
Date: 15 Dec 2008 05:34:03
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"Joe Mion" <joe_mion@cox.net > wrote in message
news:2008121423535750073-joemion@coxnet...
> On 2008-12-14 20:51:46 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
>
>> And given that Sadam had killed an estimated 2,000,000
>
> You keep spouting this number. Name your source.
>
> And, really, I don't get it, Mike. On the one hand, you say we need(ed)
> to save the Iraqi people from their evil dictator, but on the other hand,
> you keep insisting that muslims should be exterminated. You do realize
> that Iraq is a muslim nation, don't you?
>
> ---Joseph

Why don't you show me where I ever said that "all muslims should be
exterminated".?
Or, you could just stop making shit up.

Irish Mike




          
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:16:33
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 11:51 PM, Irish Mike wrote:

> "La Cosa Nostradamus" <a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uj0h16x84p.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> >> <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> >> not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
> >>
> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
> >>
> >> 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
> >> ·
> >> The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
> >> Article history
> >>
> >> "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
> >> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> >> until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
> >> officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
> >>
> >> The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
> >> Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
> >> substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
> >> researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
> >> higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
> >> reports - of 47,668."
> >>
> >>
> >> so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
> >> of the question
> > how many abortions were done in the usa in that timeframe?
>
> And of the "estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the
> violence
> that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> until June 2006", how many were killed by Americans? How many were killed
> by their fellow muslims?

It doesn't matter. We destroyed their infrastructure and literally
crippled their ability to feed themselves. Everything that has happened
since the invasion is the U.S.'s responsibility. Period.

> And given that Sadam had killed an estimated 2,000,000 how many would he
> have killed in that time frame if he had been left in power? Now compare
> those figures to the number of babies liberal Democrats have had murdered in
> the United States during that time frame.

Why do you insist on these asinine comparisons? Do you think that by
proving that "liberal Democrats" are just as "evil" as Saddam, you're
somehow absolving your ilk from moral responsibility for their atrocities?

And since you claim to be a devout Catholic, how do you think your God
views Bush's crimes? Do you think God will give him a pass, because
"liberal Democrats" have also "murdered"?

What a phony.

---- 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



         
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:52:00
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 10:47 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> > <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> > not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
> >
> > 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
> > ·
> > The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
> > Article history
> >
> > "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
> > that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> > until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
> > officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
> >
> > The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
> > Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
> > substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
> > researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
> > higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
> > reports - of 47,668."
> >
> >
> > so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
> > of the question
> how many abortions were done in the usa in that timeframe?

Try to stay on subject. Your fearless leader's policies have resulted in
roughly a MILLION deaths (and that's only in Iraq). Of living, breathing,
feeling, sentient beings. How does it feel to support a genocidal maniac,
skillz?

________________________________________________________________________ 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 14:32:55
From: Tom White
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
ChrisRobin <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> Try to stay on subject. Your fearless leader's policies have resulted in
> roughly a MILLION deaths (and that's only in Iraq). Of living, breathing,
> feeling, sentient beings. How does it feel to support a genocidal maniac,
> skillz?

And what about that Abraham Lincoln guy? 620000 total dead due
to his policies. Can you see any difference between guys like
Lincoln and Bush and guys like Stalin and Pol Pot?


           
Date: 15 Dec 2008 13:59:45
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 9:32 AM, Tom White wrote:

> ChrisRobin <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > Try to stay on subject. Your fearless leader's policies have resulted in
> > roughly a MILLION deaths (and that's only in Iraq). Of living, breathing,
> > feeling, sentient beings. How does it feel to support a genocidal maniac,
> > skillz?
>
> And what about that Abraham Lincoln guy? 620000 total dead due
> to his policies. Can you see any difference between guys like
> Lincoln and Bush and guys like Stalin and Pol Pot?

Yes, I can definitely see the difference between guys like Lincoln and
Bush.

_______________________________________________________________________ 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



           
Date: 15 Dec 2008 13:56:53
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 15 2008 9:32 AM, Tom White wrote:

> ChrisRobin <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > Try to stay on subject. Your fearless leader's policies have resulted in
> > roughly a MILLION deaths (and that's only in Iraq). Of living, breathing,
> > feeling, sentient beings. How does it feel to support a genocidal maniac,
> > skillz?
>
> And what about that Abraham Lincoln guy? 620000 total dead due
> to his policies. Can you see any difference between guys like
> Lincoln and Bush and guys like Stalin and Pol Pot?


nice, thanks

-------- 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



          
Date: 15 Dec 2008 01:20:45
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 11:52 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 10:47 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14 2008 9:49 PM, bub wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:44:04 -0800, "ChrisRobin"
> > > <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> > > not using rosie o'donnel as a chin to stand on like you but
> > >
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/10/iraq.iraqtimeline
> > >
> > > 151,000 civilians killed since Iraq invasion·
> > > ·
> > > The Guardian, Thursday 10 January 2008
> > > Article history
> > >
> > > "An estimated 151,000 Iraqi civilians have been killed in the violence
> > > that has engulfed the country from the time of the US-led invasion
> > > until June 2006, according to the latest and largest study of deaths
> > > officially accepted by the Iraqi government.
> > >
> > > The figures come from a household survey carried out by the World
> > > Health Organisation and the Iraqi health ministry. They are
> > > substantially lower than the 601,027 death toll reported by US
> > > researchers in 2006 in the Lancet using similar study methods, but
> > > higher than the Iraq Body Count's (IBC) register - based on press
> > > reports - of 47,668."
> > >
> > >
> > > so unless they were 849000 killed since june of 2006, 1million is out
> > > of the question
> > how many abortions were done in the usa in that timeframe?
>
> Try to stay on subject. Your fearless leader's policies have resulted in
> roughly a MILLION deaths (and that's only in Iraq). Of living, breathing,
> feeling, sentient beings. How does it feel to support a genocidal maniac,
> skillz?

which subject ?

the guy throwing a shoe ?

or the subject you spinelessly avoid ?

------ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




       
Date: 14 Dec 2008 18:11:10
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 7:44 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 7:10 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
>
> > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
> > >> >> this
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> funny.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> > >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> > >> tomato
> > >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> > >
> > > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
> >
> > No, and neither did President Bush.
>
> Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
>
> > Although Sadam did kill a couple of million - not that any of you liberals
> ever gave a shit about
> > that.
>
> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
> murderous actions.

ABORTION

--- 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:43:55
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 9:11 PM, La Cosa Nostradamus wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 7:44 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14 2008 7:10 PM, Irish Mike wrote:
> >
> > > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >>
news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure
why
> > > >> >> this
> > > >> >> is
> > > >> >> funny.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever
historians/reporters/
> > > >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > > >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> > > >> tomato
> > > >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> > > >
> > > > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > > > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
> > >
> > > No, and neither did President Bush.
> >
> > Of course he has. Quit lying. You have no ground to stand on here. None.
> >
> > > Although Sadam did kill a couple of million - not that any of you
liberals
> > ever gave a shit about
> > > that.
> >
> > Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
> > civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
> > murderous actions.
>
> ABORTION

NON SEQUITER

-------- 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:19:49
From: thepixelfreak
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 18:11:10 -0800, "La Cosa Nostradamus"
<a6f44ce@webnntp.invalid > said:

> On Dec 14 2008 7:44 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Of course we do. We simply acknowledge that killing another million
>> civilians is not an acceptable method of punishing a dictator for his
>> murderous actions.
>
> ABORTION

Stay on target..

--

thepixelfreak



     
Date: 14 Dec 2008 17:45:59
From: Susan
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid > wrote in message
news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
>
>> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> funny.
>> >
>>
>> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
>> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
>> >footage....LOL!!!!
>>
>>
>> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
>> tomato
>> at Obama I guess I agree.
>
> This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.

I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.




      
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:33:43
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 6:45 PM, Susan wrote:

> "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> >
> >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
> >> >> this
> >> >> is
> >> >> funny.
> >> >
> >>
> >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> >> tomato
> >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> >
> > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
>
> I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.

It's dark humor. Either you get it, or you don't.

_______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




       
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:20:14
From: brewmaster
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 4:33 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 6:45 PM, Susan wrote:
>
> > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> > >
> > >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
> > >> >> this
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> funny.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> > >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> > >> tomato
> > >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> > >
> > > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
> >
> > I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
>
> It's dark humor. Either you get it, or you don't.

It will become funny if they shoot the guy who threw the shoes.


Brew
--
Email me here: http://tinymail.me/k4r2nk

------- 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 20:43:17
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 10:20 PM, brewmaster wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 4:33 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14 2008 6:45 PM, Susan wrote:
> >
> > > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >>
news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure
why
> > > >> >> this
> > > >> >> is
> > > >> >> funny.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever
historians/reporters/
> > > >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > > >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> > > >> tomato
> > > >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> > > >
> > > > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > > > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
> > >
> > > I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
> >
> > It's dark humor. Either you get it, or you don't.
>
> It will become funny if they shoot the guy who threw the shoes.

You have a sick sense of humor. But hey, what's one more dead raghead,
right?

--- 
: the next generation of web-newsreaders : http://www.recgroups.com



         
Date: 15 Dec 2008 00:42:58
From: La Cosa Nostradamus
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 11:43 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 10:20 PM, brewmaster wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14 2008 4:33 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
> >
> > > On Dec 14 2008 6:45 PM, Susan wrote:
> > >
> > > > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > > > news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > > > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > >>
> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > > >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure
> why
> > > > >> >> this
> > > > >> >> is
> > > > >> >> funny.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever
> historians/reporters/
> > > > >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > > > >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a
rotten
> > > > >> tomato
> > > > >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> > > > >
> > > > > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > > > > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
> > >
> > > It's dark humor. Either you get it, or you don't.
> >
> > It will become funny if they shoot the guy who threw the shoes.
>
> You have a sick sense of humor. But hey, what's one more dead raghead,
> right?

good thing a baby didnt throw his shoe at u

------- 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




        
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:23:16
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
u see how slow they reacted



On Dec 14 2008 9:20 PM, brewmaster wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 4:33 PM, ChrisRobin wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14 2008 6:45 PM, Susan wrote:
> >
> > > "ChrisRobin" <a9dbf1e@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:quhg16x0in.ln2@recgroups.com...
> > > > On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > >>
news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > >> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure
why
> > > >> >> this
> > > >> >> is
> > > >> >> funny.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever
historians/reporters/
> > > >> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > > >> >footage....LOL!!!!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> > > >> tomato
> > > >> at Obama I guess I agree.
> > > >
> > > > This isn't a tit for tat thing. Obama hasn't slaughtered a million+
> > > > innocent civilians. Not yet, anyway.
> > >
> > > I agree, but I still don't see what is funny about it.
> >
> > It's dark humor. Either you get it, or you don't.
>
> It will become funny if they shoot the guy who threw the shoes.
>
>
> Brew
> --
> Email me here: http://tinymail.me/k4r2nk

____________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




    
Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:30:55
From: FellKnight
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:

> "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why this
> >> is
> >> funny.
> >
>
> >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> >footage....LOL!!!!
>
>
> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten tomato
> at Obama I guess I agree.

Coming from Canada, I have seen a great many politicians of various
parties get "pied". It is quite amusing no matter who gets it.

Fell
--
Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!

______________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com




     
Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:51:04
From: DonkeyBanAA
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
yea it pisses me off that someone was able to do this- I didnt care who
the president is that is
such a lack of respect - i hope they shoot him. but still was a funny
line :)



On Dec 14 2008 5:30 PM, FellKnight wrote:

> On Dec 14 2008 6:16 PM, Susan wrote:
>
> > "Double Down Now" <double.down.now@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:cbd8be80-6042-44b3-80e6-6e25e6e24308@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 14, 4:21 pm, "Susan" <sdbrat...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > >> I do think the subject of your post is clever, but I'm not sure why
this
> > >> is
> > >> funny.
> > >
> >
> > >Oh I think it's hilarious! From now on, whenever historians/reporters/
> > comedians talk about the Bush presidency , they will show this
> > >footage....LOL!!!!
> >
> >
> > OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
tomato
> > at Obama I guess I agree.
>
> Coming from Canada, I have seen a great many politicians of various
> parties get "pied". It is quite amusing no matter who gets it.
>
> Fell
> --
> Be Loud. Be Proud. Be Considerate!

________________________________________________________________________ 
looking for a better newsgroup-reader? - www.recgroups.com




      
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:49:33
From: bigjimmf1
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
DonkeyBanAA wrote:
> yea it pisses me off that someone was able to do this- I didnt care who
> the president is that is
> such a lack of respect - i hope they shoot him. but still was a funny
> line :)

He could have had shoe bombs for christ sake.

I really thought he was gonna get a subtle jack ruby special from one of
the agents.

--
bigjimmf1


      
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:35:47
From: ChrisRobin
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 6:51 PM, DonkeyBanAA wrote:

> yea it pisses me off that someone was able to do this- I didnt care who
> the president is that is
> such a lack of respect - i hope they shoot him. but still was a funny
> line :)

Are you trolling, or just stupid?

----- 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



    
Date: 14 Dec 2008 15:22:32
From: Clave
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
"Susan" <sdbratt48@netscape.net > wrote in message
news:Qsg1l.26564$v37.18847@newsfe01.iad...

<... >

> OK as long as you think it would be funny if someone threw a rotten
> tomato at Obama I guess I agree.

We'll have to wait for Obama to destroy a country first.

Jim




 
Date: 14 Dec 2008 14:02:17
From: FangBanger
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 2:02 PM, DonkeyBanAA wrote:

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

FOX WILL REPORT THIS AS .. Shoe Bomber attempts assasination against Bush

after all Bush's head went :

back.. and to the left

back.. and to the left

back and to the left


Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire

____________________________________________________________________ 
* kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more.. www.recgroups.com



 
Date: 14 Dec 2008 13:32:36
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
"DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearballo@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:eb5g16x0ul.ln2@recgroups.com...

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html
>


So all they did was wrestle the guy down a little and whisk him off. In
Iraq, you can throw an object at a world leader and barely be restrained.
If the same guy had merely asked some embarrassing questions, and had
instead been at a university in the United States, though, he would have
been held down by ten goons and after being restrained would have had the
fuck shocked out of him with an electric tazer, and then whisked off.






  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 19:58:08
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 13:32:36 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
<paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > said:

> In
> Iraq, you can throw an object at a world leader and barely be restrained.

i strongly object to the use of the term "world leader" in this context.

Maybe he leads you, but he don't lead me.

---Joseph



   
Date: 14 Dec 2008 21:37:45
From: Paul Popinjay
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
"Joe Mion" <joe_mion@cox.net > wrote in message
news:2008121419580816807-joemion@coxnet...

>
> Maybe he leads you, but he don't lead me.
>
> ---Joseph
>

Where have you been all this time, Joe? Everyone on this newsgroup knows
that I am the biggest critic and hater of George Bush in all of RGP history.
Does that essentially mean that you are one of the dumbest fucks to ever
post in all of RGP history?




    
Date: 14 Dec 2008 23:44:39
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 21:37:45 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
<paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > said:

> Where have you been all this time, Joe? Everyone on this newsgroup knows
> that I am the biggest critic and hater of George Bush in all of RGP history.
> Does that essentially mean that you are one of the dumbest fucks to ever
> post in all of RGP history?

Based on your track record, I was surprised that you would call him a
world leader. I made the appropriate objection to that term. So, now
you AND Irish Mike can kill me as punishment.

---Joseph



   
Date: 14 Dec 2008 23:57:38
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"Joe Mion" <joe_mion@cox.net > wrote in message
news:2008121419580816807-joemion@coxnet...
> On 2008-12-14 13:32:36 -0800, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net>
> said:
>
>> In
>> Iraq, you can throw an object at a world leader and barely be restrained.
>
> i strongly object to the use of the term "world leader" in this context.
>
> Maybe he leads you, but he don't lead me.
>
> ---Joseph

OK bucko. When Sadam was in power in Iraq, you tell me what would have
happened to any one who threw an object at him? Given that he murdered more
than 2,000,000 people, I don't like the thrower's chances much. Not to
mention the painful way the poor bastard was likely to be killed.

Irish Mike




    
Date: 14 Dec 2008 23:42:55
From: Joe Mion
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On 2008-12-14 20:57:38 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net > said:

> bucko. When Sadam was in power in Iraq, you tell me what would have
> happened to any one who threw an object at him? Given that he murdered more
> than 2,000,000 people, I don't like the thrower's chances much. Not to
> mention the painful way the poor bastard was likely to be killed.
>
> I

Mike, I think you have entered deeply into the realm of non-sekwitur.

But, since you mentioned it, what do you think the appropriate
punishment should be for the shoe throwing maniac? Death...or 2M
deaths?

Just curious what your position is here.

---Joseph



     
Date: 15 Dec 2008 02:54:52
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction

"Joe Mion" <joe_mion@cox.net > wrote in message
news:2008121423425516807-joemion@coxnet...
> On 2008-12-14 20:57:38 -0800, "Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> said:
>
>> bucko. When Sadam was in power in Iraq, you tell me what would have
>> happened to any one who threw an object at him? Given that he murdered
>> more
>> than 2,000,000 people, I don't like the thrower's chances much. Not to
>> mention the painful way the poor bastard was likely to be killed.
>>
>> I
>
> Mike, I think you have entered deeply into the realm of non-sekwitur.
>
> But, since you mentioned it, what do you think the appropriate punishment
> should be for the shoe throwing maniac? Death...or 2M deaths?
>
> Just curious what your position is here.
>
> ---Joseph

I think that's up to the Iraqi courts.

Irish Mike





  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 16:41:44
From: A Man Beaten by Jacks
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:32:36 -0800, "Paul Popinjay"
<paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net > wrote:

>"DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearballo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:eb5g16x0ul.ln2@recgroups.com...

>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

>So all they did was wrestle the guy down a little and whisk him off. In
>Iraq, you can throw an object at a world leader and barely be restrained.
>If the same guy had merely asked some embarrassing questions, and had
>instead been at a university in the United States, though, he would have
>been held down by ten goons and after being restrained would have had the
>fuck shocked out of him with an electric tazer, and then whisked off.

Why do you hate freedom?


 
Date: 14 Dec 2008 12:14:39
From: ramashiva
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14, 12:02=A0pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

LMFAO! I saw the actual video of this incident during a CBS News
Break during NFL football. Both shoes were aimed squarely at Bush's
head and would have clearly hit Bush right in the face if he hadn't
ducked.

I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair. Bush does have a
pretty good reaction time.


William Coleman (ramashiva)


  
Date: 14 Dec 2008 13:38:28
From: Wayno
Subject: Re: Bush finds weapons of mass destruction
On Dec 14 2008 2:14 PM, ramashiva wrote:

> On Dec 14, 12:02 pm, "DonkeyBanAA" <freddiearba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html
>
> LMFAO! I saw the actual video of this incident during a CBS News
> Break during NFL football. Both shoes were aimed squarely at Bush's
> head and would have clearly hit Bush right in the face if he hadn't
> ducked.
>
> I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair. Bush does have a
> pretty good reaction time.
>
>
> William Coleman (ramashiva)


You have to admit it was quite generous of Bush, near the end of the
tape, to say to the Secret Service: "Don't tase him, Bro."

________________________________________________________________________ 
RecGroups : the community-oriented newsreader : www.recgroups.com