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Date: 08 Jan 2009 19:40:44
From: Arlo-Payne
Subject: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
My money says no.
Right now FTP is trying to grow Durr into a superstar. Would love to see
his action on another site.
Do you people really think he is as good as the site makes him appear to
be?
There is more crap going here than one could dream up in a month.

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Date: 10 Jan 2009 18:53:01
From: topset72
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8, 10:40=A0pm, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
> My money says no.
> Right now FTP is trying to grow Durr into a superstar. =A0Would love to s=
ee
> his action on another site.
> Do you people really think he is as good as the site makes him appear to
> be?
> There is more crap going here than one could dream up in a month.
>
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You do know he plays at pokerstars also or are you as clueless as
Russ?

topset72


 
Date: 10 Jan 2009 14:54:21
From: seedless
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8 2009 7:40 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:

> Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
> My money says no.

> Right now FTP is trying to grow Durr into a superstar. Would love to see
> his action on another site.

Durrr isn't even a red pro at FTP. Why would they want to make him a
superstar before signing him?
If they made durrr into a superstar, before they actually signed him.
Wouldn't they just be increasing his future contract price?

> Do you people really think he is as good as the site makes him appear to
> be?

All the durrr hype originates at gay+gay. How does Mason fit into the
conspiracy?

> There is more crap going here than one could dream up in a month.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 08:59:43
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8 2009 9:40 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:

Just wondering, I'm considering taking you up on this bet that "the Durr
thing is fixed." We can settle on the exact amount and terms later, but
what I want to know is how will you prove that it is fixed? I would
assume if you're willing to bet that you have some way to prove beyond any
reasonable doubt that it is indeed fixed, right?

This is serious, so if all you have is a typical hate filled 1 liner
doggy-esque reply, just let me know that the bet is off. Otherwise please
give me detailed information on how you will prove that it is fixed, and
we can then discuss terms of this bet.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:29:59
From: YYZ
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 10:35=A0am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 9 2009 11:31 AM, YYZ wrote:
>
> > and how do you prove it's not fixed? please provide detailed
> > information
>
> I don't have to. =A0I didn't make the bet. =A0Arlo says he bets "the Durr
> thing is fixed" so it's on him to prove that it is fixed. =A0Please try t=
o
> keep up.
>
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So what you're saying is that if you take the bet (hypotheticly,
because obviously no one is actually going to bet this) it's up to
Arlo to prove that it's rigged, otherwise you win? Gee, nice odds in
your favor.


   
Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:53:08
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 5:29 PM, YYZ wrote:

> So what you're saying is that if you take the bet (hypotheticly,
> because obviously no one is actually going to bet this) it's up to
> Arlo to prove that it's rigged, otherwise you win? Gee, nice odds in
> your favor.

I'm not the one that made the bet and made the ridiculous claim that Arlo
did. If Arlo wants to make this claim then he's the one that needs to
prove it.

Now on the other hand, if I were to say "I bet that guy YYZ is a fuckin
idiot" it would be on me to prove that you are in fact a fuckin idiot.
Your post above is one example, and I'm sure with some quick searches I'd
be able to find others.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 13:16:16
From: charrison100
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 11:59 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 8 2009 9:40 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
> Just wondering, I'm considering taking you up on this bet that "the Durr
> thing is fixed." We can settle on the exact amount and terms later, but
> what I want to know is how will you prove that it is fixed? I would
> assume if you're willing to bet that you have some way to prove beyond any
> reasonable doubt that it is indeed fixed, right?
>
> This is serious, so if all you have is a typical hate filled 1 liner
> doggy-esque reply, just let me know that the bet is off. Otherwise please
> give me detailed information on how you will prove that it is fixed, and
> we can then discuss terms of this bet.
>
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> Morphy
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> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio

If Durrr wins it's fixed in his favor as a thank you for getting the game
on their site. If the challenger wins it's fixed against Durrr because he
is not an exclusive pro on that site.

What more proof do you need.

Chris

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:31:56
From: YYZ
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 8:59=A0am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 8 2009 9:40 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
> Just wondering, I'm considering taking you up on this bet that "the Durr
> thing is fixed." =A0We can settle on the exact amount and terms later, bu=
t
> what I want to know is how will you prove that it is fixed? =A0I would
> assume if you're willing to bet that you have some way to prove beyond an=
y
> reasonable doubt that it is indeed fixed, right? =A0
>
> This is serious, so if all you have is a typical hate filled 1 liner
> doggy-esque reply, just let me know that the bet is off. Otherwise please
> give me detailed information on how you will prove that it is fixed, and
> we can then discuss terms of this bet.
>
> ---
> Morphy
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> "SHUT UP IDIOT" =A0--The Great Patholio
>
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and how do you prove it's not fixed? please provide detailed
information


   
Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:35:26
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 11:31 AM, YYZ wrote:

> and how do you prove it's not fixed? please provide detailed
> information

I don't have to. I didn't make the bet. Arlo says he bets "the Durr
thing is fixed" so it's on him to prove that it is fixed. Please try to
keep up.

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 21:01:52
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
> Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.

Arlo, you're completely missing the point, as are the vast majority of
others that have posted on this topic. I've posted this previously, but
I'll post it again.

3-1 is a side bet that DURRRR is offering to get someone to play him. The
total amount won or lost is likely to be much greater than the side bet in
and of itself.

Durrrr does not have to believe his odds against his opponent are that
much greater to offer the side bet. If the amount won or lost on the
actual hands is well into the millions, than the 3-1 side bet may be a
small percentage of that.

Taking the hands and the side bet together is very different from taking
the side bet alone. I'm sure that durrrr does not believe that he is that
much of a favorite to justify the side bet in and of itself.

Anyone that doesn't get that IS totally missing the point.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 16:13:30
From: YYZ
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 4:01=A0pm, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 9 2009 5:38 PM, YYZ wrote:
>
> > If the other stacks were huge I'd probably raise the full pot, however
> > if the other stacks were small(ish), and depending on the sizes of the
> > different stacks, I'd probably try to make a raise that would commit
> > 1/2 to 2/3 the remaining stack of one of the other opponents,
> > preferably the 3rd player who re potted it (assuming, since he 3 bet,
> > that he's got something like KK or QQ or maybe AKs). Hopefully the
> > original raiser and cold caller would call, then hopefully the 3
> > bettor would push (for more than half the ammount I raised), allowing
> > me to come over the top, or even make the same type of raise again
> > (putting half the other guys stack in).
>
> Example #2.
>
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This must be too advanced for you, so I'll simplify it by adding in
some hypothetical numbers. Opener pots it to $25, guy cold calls, then
another player 3-bet pots again, this time it's $125 to go, now it's
to me. If everyone has huge stacks, like $2500+ i'm re potting. But
lets say the first 2 players start the hand with $2500 and the guy who
3 bets has $400, if I re pot here the first 2 can perhaps call, the
3rd player will call all in. But if I raise another $150 or so the
first 2 may or may not call, but if they do the 3rd guy is likely to
push, and I can come over the top. Many different variations of this
scenerio could play out. Perhaps the opener has a short stack, if I
pot it and put him all in the other 2 can come along for the ride. But
if I re raise such that the opener is forced to call most of his stack
off, he'll likely fold or push, which will allow me to (again this is
Very Advanced so pay attention) come over the top if either or both of
the other 2 potential callers. In the scenerio you provided the 3-
bettor is most likely to 5 bet after my 4 bet. Of course i'm assuming
full-blown poker rules here and not some bullshit rules protecting
weak players or short stacks by disallowing more than 3 raises or not
allowing a raise of an all in player ect. An automatic full pot bet
here could put one of the short stacks in and allow the others to see
a flop without having to face an all in coup. A carefully selected
raise can get a short stack to push and allow me to put everyone all
in. Get it? I suppose I know what your reply will be "you're an
idiot".


   
Date: 09 Jan 2009 17:02:52
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 6:13 PM, YYZ wrote:

> This must be too advanced for you, so I'll simplify it by adding in
> some hypothetical numbers. Opener pots it to $25, guy cold calls, then
> another player 3-bet pots again, this time it's $125 to go, now it's
> to me. If everyone has huge stacks, like $2500+ i'm re potting. But
> lets say the first 2 players start the hand with $2500 and the guy who
> 3 bets has $400, if I re pot here the first 2 can perhaps call, the
> 3rd player will call all in. But if I raise another $150 or so the
> first 2 may or may not call, but if they do the 3rd guy is likely to
> push, and I can come over the top. Many different variations of this
> scenerio could play out. Perhaps the opener has a short stack, if I
> pot it and put him all in the other 2 can come along for the ride. But
> if I re raise such that the opener is forced to call most of his stack
> off, he'll likely fold or push, which will allow me to (again this is
> Very Advanced so pay attention) come over the top if either or both of
> the other 2 potential callers. In the scenerio you provided the 3-
> bettor is most likely to 5 bet after my 4 bet. Of course i'm assuming
> full-blown poker rules here and not some bullshit rules protecting
> weak players or short stacks by disallowing more than 3 raises or not
> allowing a raise of an all in player ect. An automatic full pot bet
> here could put one of the short stacks in and allow the others to see
> a flop without having to face an all in coup. A carefully selected
> raise can get a short stack to push and allow me to put everyone all
> in. Get it? I suppose I know what your reply will be "you're an
> idiot".

Aaaaand the hat trick. Congrats.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 15:38:52
From: YYZ
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 10:34=A0am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 9 2009 11:17 AM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
>
> > There simply isn't anything new to discuss.
>
> What if you were in an overly tight 5/10 PLHE cash game and you ran your
> stack up to $5000, which is an unusually large amount of money to win in
> this particular game. =A0One player pots it, another calls, 3rd player
> re-pots it and it's on you. =A0You look down at AA. =A0What do you do?
>
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If the other stacks were huge I'd probably raise the full pot, however
if the other stacks were small(ish), and depending on the sizes of the
different stacks, I'd probably try to make a raise that would commit
1/2 to 2/3 the remaining stack of one of the other opponents,
preferably the 3rd player who re potted it (assuming, since he 3 bet,
that he's got something like KK or QQ or maybe AKs). Hopefully the
original raiser and cold caller would call, then hopefully the 3
bettor would push (for more than half the ammount I raised), allowing
me to come over the top, or even make the same type of raise again
(putting half the other guys stack in).


   
Date: 09 Jan 2009 16:01:51
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 5:38 PM, YYZ wrote:

> If the other stacks were huge I'd probably raise the full pot, however
> if the other stacks were small(ish), and depending on the sizes of the
> different stacks, I'd probably try to make a raise that would commit
> 1/2 to 2/3 the remaining stack of one of the other opponents,
> preferably the 3rd player who re potted it (assuming, since he 3 bet,
> that he's got something like KK or QQ or maybe AKs). Hopefully the
> original raiser and cold caller would call, then hopefully the 3
> bettor would push (for more than half the ammount I raised), allowing
> me to come over the top, or even make the same type of raise again
> (putting half the other guys stack in).

Example #2.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:29:56
From: Mr. Eff
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 11:55=A0am, "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> On Jan 9 2009 1:20 AM, Arlo-Payne wrote:

> So your answer is you don't know? =A0Durrr plays just as much on Stars as
> FullTilt and no where in his postings did it mention what site this
> challenge was on. =A0

The only reason people assume that he will be playing on FTP is
because all the people who have accepted so far are obligated to play
there. If Dwan was going to play someone like Bertrand Grospellier,
or Daniel N., those games would surely be on Stars, for the same
reason. Durrrr mostly plays at FTP because thats where most of the
nosebleed games are, but has always played at multiple sites.


  
Date: 09 Jan 2009 06:18:58
From: herdpm
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 9:15=A0am, herdpm <Her...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:29=A0am, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 8 2009 10:01 PM, Lynx wrote:
>
> > > > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 c=
rap.
>
> > > Arlo, you're completely missing the point, as are the vast majority o=
f
> > > others that have posted on this topic. =A0I've posted this previously=
, but
> > > I'll post it again.
>
> > > 3-1 is a side bet that DURRRR is offering to get someone to play him.=
=A0The
> > > total amount won or lost is likely to be much greater than the side b=
et in
> > > and of itself.
>
> > > Durrrr does not have to believe his odds against his opponent are tha=
t
> > > much greater to offer the side bet. =A0If the amount won or lost on t=
he
> > > actual hands is well into the millions, than the 3-1 side bet may be =
a
> > > small percentage of that.
>
> > > Taking the hands and the side bet together is very different from tak=
ing
> > > the side bet alone. =A0I'm sure that durrrr does not believe that he =
is that
> > > much of a favorite to justify the side bet in and of itself. =A0
>
> > > Anyone that doesn't get that IS totally missing the point.
>
> > You dont get it!
> > THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> > No real money isa involved
>
> > ---=A0
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quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If you watch some of the hands played on by Durrr on onwww.tablerankings.=
com
> you'll see that Durrr misplays A LOT of hands. His profits, it appears
> to me, come from winning HUGE pots. In his heads up matches it looks
> like he takes a beating quite often, then gets it all back and more in
> one or two monstrous hands. I think there is something to a
> relationship existing between Dwan and FT.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Here is a direct link to his recent sessions:
http://www.pokertableratings.com/sessions/Durrrr/fulltilt/


   
Date: 09 Jan 2009 08:26:16
From: Raider Fan
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 8:18 AM, herdpm wrote:

> On Jan 9, 9:15 am, herdpm <Her...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 9, 12:29 am, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 8 2009 10:01 PM, Lynx wrote:
> >
> > > > > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1
crap.
> >
> > > > Arlo, you're completely missing the point, as are the vast majority of
> > > > others that have posted on this topic.  I've posted this previously,
but
> > > > I'll post it again.
> >
> > > > 3-1 is a side bet that DURRRR is offering to get someone to play him.
 The
> > > > total amount won or lost is likely to be much greater than the side
bet in
> > > > and of itself.
> >
> > > > Durrrr does not have to believe his odds against his opponent are that
> > > > much greater to offer the side bet.  If the amount won or lost on the
> > > > actual hands is well into the millions, than the 3-1 side bet may be a
> > > > small percentage of that.
> >
> > > > Taking the hands and the side bet together is very different from
taking
> > > > the side bet alone.  I'm sure that durrrr does not believe that he is
that
> > > > much of a favorite to justify the side bet in and of itself.  
> >
> > > > Anyone that doesn't get that IS totally missing the point.
> >
> > > You dont get it!
> > > THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> > > No real money isa involved
> >
> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > If you watch some of the hands played on by Durrr on
onwww.tablerankings.com
> > you'll see that Durrr misplays A LOT of hands. His profits, it appears
> > to me, come from winning HUGE pots. In his heads up matches it looks
> > like he takes a beating quite often, then gets it all back and more in
> > one or two monstrous hands. I think there is something to a
> > relationship existing between Dwan and FT.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
> Here is a direct link to his recent sessions:
> http://www.pokertableratings.com/sessions/Durrrr/fulltilt/

Please don't confuse Arlo with the facts. He's decided that nobody would
play for that kind of money on the internet. It's simply a ruse to get
people to play on the sites.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 06:15:30
From: herdpm
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9, 12:29=A0am, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 8 2009 10:01 PM, Lynx wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 cra=
p.
>
> > Arlo, you're completely missing the point, as are the vast majority of
> > others that have posted on this topic. =A0I've posted this previously, =
but
> > I'll post it again.
>
> > 3-1 is a side bet that DURRRR is offering to get someone to play him. =
=A0The
> > total amount won or lost is likely to be much greater than the side bet=
in
> > and of itself.
>
> > Durrrr does not have to believe his odds against his opponent are that
> > much greater to offer the side bet. =A0If the amount won or lost on the
> > actual hands is well into the millions, than the 3-1 side bet may be a
> > small percentage of that.
>
> > Taking the hands and the side bet together is very different from takin=
g
> > the side bet alone. =A0I'm sure that durrrr does not believe that he is=
that
> > much of a favorite to justify the side bet in and of itself. =A0
>
> > Anyone that doesn't get that IS totally missing the point.
>
> You dont get it!
> THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> No real money isa involved
>
> ---=A0
> * kill-files, watch-lists, favorites, and more..www.recgroups.com- Hide q=
uoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



If you watch some of the hands played on by Durrr on on www.tablerankings.c=
om
you'll see that Durrr misplays A LOT of hands. His profits, it appears
to me, come from winning HUGE pots. In his heads up matches it looks
like he takes a beating quite often, then gets it all back and more in
one or two monstrous hands. I think there is something to a
relationship existing between Dwan and FT.


  
Date: 08 Jan 2009 21:26:11
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
You're not missing the point. Look in the mirror and you'll see it.






On Jan 8, 9:01=EF=BF=BDpm, "Lynx" <a1...@webnntp.invalid > wrote:
> > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
>
> Arlo, you're completely missing the point, as are the vast majority of
> others that have posted on this topic. =EF=BF=BDI've posted this previous=
ly, but
> I'll post it again.
>
> 3-1 is a side bet that DURRRR is offering to get someone to play him. =EF=
=BF=BDThe
> total amount won or lost is likely to be much greater than the side bet i=
n
> and of itself.
>
> Durrrr does not have to believe his odds against his opponent are that
> much greater to offer the side bet. =EF=BF=BDIf the amount won or lost on=
the
> actual hands is well into the millions, than the 3-1 side bet may be a
> small percentage of that.
>
> Taking the hands and the side bet together is very different from taking
> the side bet alone. =EF=BF=BDI'm sure that durrrr does not believe that h=
e is that
> much of a favorite to justify the side bet in and of itself. =EF=BF=BD
>
> Anyone that doesn't get that IS totally missing the point.
>
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=BF=BD
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Date: 08 Jan 2009 21:50:10
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
> You're not missing the point. Look in the mirror and you'll see it.

That's really cute Russ. Now, if you could only post something meaningful
for a change.

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 21:29:38
From: Arlo-Payne
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8 2009 10:01 PM, Lynx wrote:

> > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
>
> Arlo, you're completely missing the point, as are the vast majority of
> others that have posted on this topic. I've posted this previously, but
> I'll post it again.
>
> 3-1 is a side bet that DURRRR is offering to get someone to play him. The
> total amount won or lost is likely to be much greater than the side bet in
> and of itself.
>
> Durrrr does not have to believe his odds against his opponent are that
> much greater to offer the side bet. If the amount won or lost on the
> actual hands is well into the millions, than the 3-1 side bet may be a
> small percentage of that.
>
> Taking the hands and the side bet together is very different from taking
> the side bet alone. I'm sure that durrrr does not believe that he is that
> much of a favorite to justify the side bet in and of itself.
>
> Anyone that doesn't get that IS totally missing the point.

You dont get it!
THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
No real money isa involved

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 22:34:47
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8 2009 11:29 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:

> You dont get it!
> THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> No real money isa involved

I'm sorry, I don't see where in the deal it said the play had to be on
fulltilt. You seem to be sure of it so can you provide me the link that I
must have missed? Thanks,

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 23:20:44
From: Arlo-Payne
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8 2009 11:34 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 8 2009 11:29 PM, Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
> > You dont get it!
> > THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> > No real money isa involved
>
> I'm sorry, I don't see where in the deal it said the play had to be on
> fulltilt. You seem to be sure of it so can you provide me the link that I
> must have missed? Thanks,
>
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Oh get your head out of your ass!
Who are they connected to?
So there is your answer

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 08:55:13
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 1:20 AM, Arlo-Payne wrote:

> Oh get your head out of your ass!
> Who are they connected to?
> So there is your answer

So your answer is you don't know? Durrr plays just as much on Stars as
FullTilt and no where in his postings did it mention what site this
challenge was on.

In other words, you're just doing your every few week show up on RGP
hopped up on pain meds, tell everyone how much better you are than them,
swing your dick around expecting someone to care, and then having a temper
tantrum when someone disagrees with you.

I don't understand how everyone doesn't just bow down to the superior
being that is Arlo. Mysteries of the unexplained.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:17:43
From: CincinnatiKid
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 11:55 AM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 9 2009 1:20 AM, Arlo-Payne wrote:
>
> > Oh get your head out of your ass!
> > Who are they connected to?
> > So there is your answer
>
> So your answer is you don't know? Durrr plays just as much on Stars as
> FullTilt and no where in his postings did it mention what site this
> challenge was on.
>
> In other words, you're just doing your every few week show up on RGP
> hopped up on pain meds, tell everyone how much better you are than them,
> swing your dick around expecting someone to care, and then having a temper
> tantrum when someone disagrees with you.
>
> I don't understand how everyone doesn't just bow down to the superior
> being that is Arlo. Mysteries of the unexplained.
>
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> http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
> "SHUT UP IDIOT" --The Great Patholio

I enjoy some of the old guys, their knowledge, and their stories. Arlo
isn't on that list, though.

Also, I don't get the gripe about there not being more poker discussion.
There's nothing to fucking discuss. Unless they change the rules of the
game; we've pretty much covered every stinking situation ten times over.

There *may be 1 thread every week or 2 regarding a hand that's interesting
and worthy of discussion. Most situations posted here are mind numbingly
standard, though.

There simply isn't anything new to discuss.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:34:09
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 11:17 AM, CincinnatiKid wrote:

> There simply isn't anything new to discuss.

What if you were in an overly tight 5/10 PLHE cash game and you ran your
stack up to $5000, which is an unusually large amount of money to win in
this particular game. One player pots it, another calls, 3rd player
re-pots it and it's on you. You look down at AA. What do you do?

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 13:12:16
From: charrison100
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 1:34 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 9 2009 11:17 AM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
>
> > There simply isn't anything new to discuss.
>
> What if you were in an overly tight 5/10 PLHE cash game and you ran your
> stack up to $5000, which is an unusually large amount of money to win in
> this particular game. One player pots it, another calls, 3rd player
> re-pots it and it's on you. You look down at AA. What do you do?
>
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Pot it

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 11:09:28
From: John_Brian_K
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
> What if you were in an overly tight 5/10 PLHE cash game and you ran your
> stack up to $5000, which is an unusually large amount of money to win in
> this particular game. One player pots it, another calls, 3rd player
> re-pots it and it's on you. You look down at AA. What do you do?

o0o

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:47:01
From: CincinnatiKid
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 1:34 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 9 2009 11:17 AM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
>
> > There simply isn't anything new to discuss.
>
> What if you were in an overly tight 5/10 PLHE cash game and you ran your
> stack up to $5000, which is an unusually large amount of money to win in
> this particular game. One player pots it, another calls, 3rd player
> re-pots it and it's on you. You look down at AA. What do you do?
>
> ---
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Pot the bastard. The day I don't reraise AA in a cash game is the day I
quit playing for good.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:52:30
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 12:47 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:

> Pot the bastard. The day I don't reraise AA in a cash game is the day I
> quit playing for good.

Well according to Arlo (and his moron sidekick pokerchimp), you should
fold that. His reasoning is that you locked up an unusually large win and
there's no reason to put it at risk with a chance to lose.

Of course anyone that disagrees with him (read: all of RGP except his pet
moron) is automatically an idiot, and he posted 37 other threads saying
how RGP was useless and how he was going to leave, blah blah blah blah.
You missed out on all that on your last vacation!

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:54:07
From: CincinnatiKid
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 1:52 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 9 2009 12:47 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
>
> > Pot the bastard. The day I don't reraise AA in a cash game is the day I
> > quit playing for good.
>
> Well according to Arlo (and his moron sidekick pokerchimp), you should
> fold that. His reasoning is that you locked up an unusually large win and
> there's no reason to put it at risk with a chance to lose.
>
> Of course anyone that disagrees with him (read: all of RGP except his pet
> moron) is automatically an idiot, and he posted 37 other threads saying
> how RGP was useless and how he was going to leave, blah blah blah blah.
> You missed out on all that on your last vacation!
>
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He said that? You're kidding me, right?

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 10:58:19
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 12:54 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:

> He said that? You're kidding me, right?

I got a bunch of details wrong, but the idea is the same. Here's the
thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/browse_frm/thread/d2ef7a07f0439010?q=arlo+pot+limit+aa+group:rec.gambling.poker

tinyurl:
http://tinyurl.com/8q3nz2
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Date: 09 Jan 2009 11:05:20
From: CincinnatiKid
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 1:58 PM, XaQ Morphy wrote:

> On Jan 9 2009 12:54 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
>
> > He said that? You're kidding me, right?
>
> I got a bunch of details wrong, but the idea is the same. Here's the
> thread:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/browse_frm/thread/d2ef7a07f0439010?q=arlo+pot+limit+aa+group:rec.gambling.poker
>
> tinyurl:
> http://tinyurl.com/8q3nz2
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I made it through about 15 replies, but had to stop before my head
exploded. How that thread got 120+ replies is beyond me.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 11:53:24
From: XaQ Morphy
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 1:05 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:

> I made it through about 15 replies, but had to stop before my head
> exploded. How that thread got 120+ replies is beyond me.

Well once Arlo realized no one agreed with him he started with the
personal attacks. It was a great thread for entertainment value.

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:20:07
From: GrouchySmurf1002
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 12:17 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:

> There simply isn't anything new to discuss in NLHE tournaments.

FYP

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Date: 09 Jan 2009 09:22:39
From: CincinnatiKid
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 9 2009 12:20 PM, GrouchySmurf1002 wrote:

> On Jan 9 2009 12:17 PM, CincinnatiKid wrote:
>
> > There simply isn't anything new to discuss in NLHE tournaments.
>
> FYP

Thanks. I think everyone knew I meant NLHE....cash or tournaments, though.

I've been playing a lot of draw and O8 lately to expand my knowledge. I
hope that meets the "old guards" approval. If so, I may finally be able to
sleep at night.

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 21:42:12
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
> > > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.

> You dont get it!
> THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> No real money isa involved

Possibly, although I don't think that is at all certain.

Your post suggested that it had to be a scam because of the 3-1 odds
offered. If you want to present a reason that you KNOW it is a scam, you
have to do better than that, as 3-1 are not the true OVERALL odds.

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 23:21:51
From: Arlo-Payne
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
On Jan 8 2009 10:42 PM, Lynx wrote:

> > > > Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
>
> > You dont get it!
> > THIS WHOLE THING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SCAM TO PROMOTE FTP!
> > No real money isa involved
>
> Possibly, although I don't think that is at all certain.
>
> Your post suggested that it had to be a scam because of the 3-1 odds
> offered. If you want to present a reason that you KNOW it is a scam, you
> have to do better than that, as 3-1 are not the true OVERALL odds.

Bullshit I never used the odds as a reason. I just know how this crap
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Date: 09 Jan 2009 05:50:02
From: Lynx
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
> Bullshit I never used the odds as a reason.

Okay, in that case you haven't really presented any meaningful argument.

> I just know how this crap works

You think you do, at any rate.

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Date: 08 Jan 2009 20:34:37
From: RussGeorgiev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bet the Durr thing is fixed.
I remember the morons betting on Russ Hamilton to beat Stupak years
ago in their match. I remember the morons betting the computer Caro
built (Oracle) would beat Bob Stupak. I remember Amarillo Slime
busting the rail in pool matches. I remember how they cold decked the
insurance guys and busted them.






On Jan 8, 7:40=EF=BF=BDpm, "Arlo-Payne" <arlo_pa...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Move the play off of FTP and see if they will still do the 3 to 1 crap.
> My money says no.
> Right now FTP is trying to grow Durr into a superstar. =EF=BF=BDWould lov=
e to see
> his action on another site.
> Do you people really think he is as good as the site makes him appear to
> be?
> There is more crap going here than one could dream up in a month.
>
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