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Date: 20 Jan 2009 19:21:25
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Subject: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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I would absolutely love it if the poker rooms around Columbus, Ohio
were 100% legal. I belong to a few and have played but still have
doubts. I will probably not play anymore till I know for sure.
Here's why----
The operators of these rooms say they have talked with the Attorney
General and local officials and are approved. I have called the AG's
office and spoke to people at the AG office.They have told me it is
illegal. They refer to the following information in this link.
http://www.ag.state.oh.us/business/pubs/char/policy201.pdf
It basically says Texas Hold Em is a game of chance. Games of chance
are limited to charitible organizations with a limited number of
events that can be held in a year. A deck of cards is considered a
gambling device.
Workers and dealers CANNOT be tipped.
What papers / evidence/ etc...do you operators have that you can show
me from the AG's office that state you can open a club and play
poker?
Believe me. I WANT TO PLAY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING BUSTED!!!!!!
The AG's office said that these clubs around Ohio have not been shut
down because they have not been reported. I think that is BS because
local law enforcement know where these clubs are and have done nothing
so far.
I do not plan on reporting because I WANT THEM TO BE OPEN SO I CAN
PLAY!!
What are the loopholes in the Ohio codes that allow them to be open?
Is it the "Private Club" label? Where no rake is taken and members pay
dues?
Any information is helpful. Post replies here.
Thanks,
Hold'em Harry
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 05:23:49
From: MMelia
Subject: Re: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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On Jan 20 2009 10:21 PM, clascola wrote:
> I would absolutely love it if the poker rooms around Columbus, Ohio
> were 100% legal. I belong to a few and have played but still have
> doubts. I will probably not play anymore till I know for sure.
> Here's why----
>
> The operators of these rooms say they have talked with the Attorney
> General and local officials and are approved. I have called the AG's
> office and spoke to people at the AG office.They have told me it is
> illegal. They refer to the following information in this link.
>
> http://www.ag.state.oh.us/business/pubs/char/policy201.pdf
>
> It basically says Texas Hold Em is a game of chance. Games of chance
> are limited to charitible organizations with a limited number of
> events that can be held in a year. A deck of cards is considered a
> gambling device.
> Workers and dealers CANNOT be tipped.
>
> What papers / evidence/ etc...do you operators have that you can show
> me from the AG's office that state you can open a club and play
> poker?
>
> Believe me. I WANT TO PLAY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING BUSTED!!!!!!
> The AG's office said that these clubs around Ohio have not been shut
> down because they have not been reported. I think that is BS because
> local law enforcement know where these clubs are and have done nothing
> so far.
> I do not plan on reporting because I WANT THEM TO BE OPEN SO I CAN
> PLAY!!
>
> What are the loopholes in the Ohio codes that allow them to be open?
> Is it the "Private Club" label? Where no rake is taken and members pay
> dues?
>
> Any information is helpful. Post replies here.
> Thanks,
> Hold'em Harry
If the AG told you its illegal - then discussion over.
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 08:59:58
From: CincinnatiKid
Subject: Re: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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On Jan 21 2009 8:23 AM, MMelia wrote:
> On Jan 20 2009 10:21 PM, clascola wrote:
>
> > I would absolutely love it if the poker rooms around Columbus, Ohio
> > were 100% legal. I belong to a few and have played but still have
> > doubts. I will probably not play anymore till I know for sure.
> > Here's why----
> >
> > The operators of these rooms say they have talked with the Attorney
> > General and local officials and are approved. I have called the AG's
> > office and spoke to people at the AG office.They have told me it is
> > illegal. They refer to the following information in this link.
> >
> > http://www.ag.state.oh.us/business/pubs/char/policy201.pdf
> >
> > It basically says Texas Hold Em is a game of chance. Games of chance
> > are limited to charitible organizations with a limited number of
> > events that can be held in a year. A deck of cards is considered a
> > gambling device.
> > Workers and dealers CANNOT be tipped.
> >
> > What papers / evidence/ etc...do you operators have that you can show
> > me from the AG's office that state you can open a club and play
> > poker?
> >
> > Believe me. I WANT TO PLAY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING BUSTED!!!!!!
> > The AG's office said that these clubs around Ohio have not been shut
> > down because they have not been reported. I think that is BS because
> > local law enforcement know where these clubs are and have done nothing
> > so far.
> > I do not plan on reporting because I WANT THEM TO BE OPEN SO I CAN
> > PLAY!!
> >
> > What are the loopholes in the Ohio codes that allow them to be open?
> > Is it the "Private Club" label? Where no rake is taken and members pay
> > dues?
> >
> > Any information is helpful. Post replies here.
> > Thanks,
> > Hold'em Harry
>
> If the AG told you its illegal - then discussion over.
I played at the Orioles club in Miamisburg, Ohio for years. They got
busted a year and a half ago or so. Everyone there at the time was
arrested. All money over $1000 was confiscated. The club was shut down.
It's illegal.
How do they get away with it? Money, of course. Don't be so naive.
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 02:17:28
From: Irish Mike
Subject: Re: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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<clascola@insight.rr.com > wrote in message
news:45990b2f-821a-4f1c-9678-e2e9489319f9@v18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
>I would absolutely love it if the poker rooms around Columbus, Ohio
> were 100% legal. I belong to a few and have played but still have
> doubts. I will probably not play anymore till I know for sure.
> Here's why----
>
> The operators of these rooms say they have talked with the Attorney
> General and local officials and are approved. I have called the AG's
> office and spoke to people at the AG office.They have told me it is
> illegal. They refer to the following information in this link.
>
> http://www.ag.state.oh.us/business/pubs/char/policy201.pdf
>
> It basically says Texas Hold Em is a game of chance. Games of chance
> are limited to charitible organizations with a limited number of
> events that can be held in a year. A deck of cards is considered a
> gambling device.
> Workers and dealers CANNOT be tipped.
>
> What papers / evidence/ etc...do you operators have that you can show
> me from the AG's office that state you can open a club and play
> poker?
>
> Believe me. I WANT TO PLAY AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING BUSTED!!!!!!
> The AG's office said that these clubs around Ohio have not been shut
> down because they have not been reported. I think that is BS because
> local law enforcement know where these clubs are and have done nothing
> so far.
> I do not plan on reporting because I WANT THEM TO BE OPEN SO I CAN
> PLAY!!
>
> What are the loopholes in the Ohio codes that allow them to be open?
> Is it the "Private Club" label? Where no rake is taken and members pay
> dues?
>
> Any information is helpful. Post replies here.
> Thanks,
> Hold'em Harry
Non-charity poker games that are run for profit are illegal in Ohio -
period.
Irish Mike
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 18:12:58
From: DELETETHIS
Subject: Re: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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pretty much that way in every state without gambling except Calif
> Non-charity poker games that are run for profit are illegal in Ohio -
> period.
>
> Irish Mike
>
>
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 20:54:45
From: Jason Pawloski
Subject: Re: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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What do you mean "state without gambling?" California absolutely has
gambling.
On Jan 21 2009 5:12 PM, DELETETHIS wrote:
> pretty much that way in every state without gambling except Calif
>
>
> > Non-charity poker games that are run for profit are illegal in Ohio -
> > period.
> >
> > Irish Mike
> >
> >
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Date: 21 Jan 2009 21:03:30
From: Steam
Subject: Re: Are Poker Clubs Legal?? Show me Proof !! I Want To Play !!! OHIO
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On Jan 21 2009 8:54 PM, Jason Pawloski wrote:
> What do you mean "state without gambling?" California absolutely has
> gambling.
>
I think they said poker was a skill game, but that only draw poker was a
skill game (including lowball), but stud and hold em were gambling. In
1987 they let the floodgates open, poker-wise anyways. God draw poker is
boring, I only played in Gardena and the Bicycle Club 3 or 4 times back in
the old days, until they opened Hollywood Park Casino in 1994 and they had
games that were much more interesting and challenging to me. I hadn't
realized that stud and hold em had been legal since 1987.
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